Fat Moogle Mount on Mogstation!

[Teryaani]

Be prepared to re-live this ridiculous thread a second time when they release the red Fenrir.

There will be additional rancor over the fact that the regular fenrir is so hard to get and therefore it cheapens it, etc.

[Skivvy]

EXCEPT they just added 3 new mounts in the game, obtainable ONLY BY PLAYING THE GAME. This ONE cash shop mount doesn't say much.

But the argument of myself and of many others in this thread is that all items should be obtainable via an in-game method due to the fact we pay a monthly subscription. I would be perfectly fine with these things being a limited-time only event, and THEN moving to the cash shop, but we don't even have that option.

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

[Teryaani]

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

For me, that's not it. I came over from WoW which had a cash shop, but also had a very active anti-cash shop population. Quick caveat with WoW. I left during Mists right before the introduction of the pay for level option.

I have a different viewpoint of what I expect in my subscription. My viewpoint isn't right or wrong, but it is mine. As long as the vast majority of mounts, minions, vanity items, and clothing are available in game and the cash shop isn't being used to gate content or levels, I'm okay with it.

The moment that the company starts shifting large efforts into pay-for materials or does pay for housing or pay for leveling or pay for current content, I stop being okay with it.

[SagaSoluna]

But the argument of myself and of many others in this thread is that all items should be obtainable via an in-game method due to the fact we pay a monthly subscription. I would be perfectly fine with these things being a limited-time only event, and THEN moving to the cash shop, but we don't even have that option.

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

You sound like them Tumblr Feminists
"If you don´t agree with me you don´t know any better"

Pathetic and saddening, literally.

[Morzy]

Am I the only one who thinks this mount is disgusting and very exxagerated to the point where I don't even wanna look at it.

Glad you all are enjoying it, though.. and Idc how many ppl it can hold, $30 is crossing the line for me and I refuse to support these prices.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

You sound like them Tumblr Feminists
"If you don´t agree with me you don´t know any better"

Pathetic and saddening, literally.

Only it doesn`t. Is actually the only way this cash shop would be "justified". As it stands now, it only reduces the worth of your subscription game.

Be prepared to re-live this ridiculous thread a second time when they release the red Fenrir.

And at every step of the way in this long process till level boosting and later stat boosting stuff gets into the Cash Shop.
There is many of us that have ranted before there was even a Cash Shop, and when it was announced, and with its every update, and we will continue to do so.

[Skivvy]

You sound like them Tumblr Feminists
"If you don´t agree with me you don´t know any better"

Pathetic and saddening, literally.

LOL, way to come out of left-field with that comment. Did I strike a nerve or something? I've not been attacking anyone in this thread. Simply explaining/defending my viewpoint.

For me, that's not it. I came over from WoW which had a cash shop, but also had a very active anti-cash shop population. Quick caveat with WoW. I left during Mists right before the introduction of the pay for level option.

I have a different viewpoint of what I expect in my subscription. My viewpoint isn't right or wrong, but it is mine. As long as the vast majority of mounts, minions, vanity items, and clothing are available in game and the cash shop isn't being used to gate content or levels, I'm okay with it.

The moment that the company starts shifting large efforts into pay-for materials or does pay for housing or pay for leveling or pay for current content, I stop being okay with it.

And fair enough Again, I get we all have our opinions on the matter, no one is right or wrong. Just trying to understand the other side a bit more.

[NorthernLadMSP]

And at every step of the way in this long process till level boosting and later stat boosting stuff gets into the Cash Shop.
There is many of us that have ranted before there was even a Cash Shop, and when it was announced, and with its every update, and we will continue to do so.

Yep, some people just aren't happy unless they are complaining about something.

Though, I will say, I too would voice a complaint if they put items in that, you know, actually give your character an advantage - such as level skipping potions, weapons with actual stats, etc.

[Konungarike]

Read latter half of the thread and gotta parrot what a lot of other people are saying.

I don't like the cash shop. The fact of it is that time and effort put into developing the cash shop items could have been put into content obtainable within the game. Cash shop items is not an extra bonus that just popped into existence that you have the option of buying; the existence of them takes away potential content for game. I don't think that's okay, and it's not a practice I want to support. I want the option of having developer competence put into in-game rewards.

The most I can stretch to paying for is a name change and a server transfer. Those are things that would require some extra work for the SE staff, on a true on-demand basis, on top of what the typical service we pay for would entail. I'm even having a hard time justifying paying for fantasias, since using one is instant and requires no additional input from the staff whatsoever.

[Letbluevannback]

Definitely too ugly for me. Maybe one day I'll buy it for pure collecting purposes.

This is making me wonder though if there will ever be an easy-and-free-to-obtain two-seater mounts. All the ones out there right now require either RL money (ceremony chocobo, fat moogle, draught/amber chocobos (though they don't require YOUR money, they still require your friend's subscription money)), or 2000 mentor roulettes.

I had hopes that Midgardsorm's mount would be made a two/three-seater mount like in that Heavensward Artwork they made, but I don't see it happening now, because then less people would put in the money for those other ones.

I support the cash shop, but I think the game should offer close alternatives that aren't a royal pain in the butt to obtain.