DPSing as a healer

[mp-please]

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I'll explain to you again since clearly you didn't understood anything of what i just said.

You have a party doing 2500 dps aka, 1 dps doing 1k, another dps doing 1k, tank doing 500 and healer doing 0. Party clears in 23 mins.
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You have a party doing 3500 dps, aka, 1 dps doing 1k, another dps doing 1k, tank doing 500 and healer doing 1k. Party clears in 18 mins.

23-18 isn't 10. Stop exaggerating.
It's bad that healers don't dps but please don't put healer dps on a pedestal the doesn't exist. Last i we need is more lazy dps players who expect the healer to do half of the party dps because someone on OF said so. Plus a more realistic % is 28~30% considering the average DF run, not 40~50%.

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And i've been running experts since 2.1, what does that matter for this convo? Either way the point is dps/mp, yes it doesn't matter much in dungeons but it's always a fun practice for harder content.

[_slowpoke_]

I'll explain to you again since clearly you didn't understood anything of what i just said.

Sigh. I'm not going to continue your game of "no u". This isn't getting anywhere.

And i've been running experts since 2.1, what does that matter for this convo?

It matters because you make completely false and made-up claims about "the current expert system", by which you can only mean one of two things: the current set of Experts or the Heavensward Experts as a whole.

Either way the point is dps/mp

Except you have no point because again, I AoE constantly on every pull in the current experts where it makes sense to do so (i.e., every pull with 3+ mobs), and I don't have issues with MP.

yes it doesn't matter much in dungeons

It does, and (intentionally) not doing it is still lazy, disrespectful, and plain being bad. There's really nothing more to discuss about this.

[mp-please]

It matters because you make completely false and made-up claims about "the current expert system", by which you can only mean one of two things: the current set of Experts or the Heavensward Experts as a whole.

I've presented the overall numbers i've collected over all dungeons i've done during my eso hunt for the relic through the DF system, you say it's false and i'm making it up. I'm not posting parses here either so lets keep it that way, believe in what you want to believe.

Except you have no point because again, I AoE constantly on every pull in the current experts where it makes sense to do so (i.e., every pull with 3+ mobs), and I don't have issues with MP.

Ok and? Like i said it's a dungeon, you can regen and mash holy on every single pull and not have mp issues. You're just picking on the fact i said, and i'll rewrite it differently so you don't miss my 'almost' again, that aoe skills have less of a place in these current experts, than it had in previous ones.
You just keep saying it's wrong, it's false, etc even though theres a lot less >3 mob pulls than there was back before 3.3.

It does, and (intentionally) not doing it is still lazy, disrespectful, and plain being bad. There's really nothing more to discuss about this.

You DID misunderstood me. I finish every single dungeon at 1100-1300 dps and 98% of the times i'm the top dps, just because i find aoes less useful in the current expert system as most mobs are damage sponges and come in tiny groups it doesn't mean i don't aoe. Seriously, the hell are you calling me lazy, disrespectful and bad for?

[Megotaku]

Seriously, the hell are you calling me lazy, disrespectful and bad for?

Because this is the attitude that this game has come to foster. Not only do you need to DPS as a healer, your DPS is so vitally important even as the purest, main heal class it's time to sling insults if the manner in which you DPS disagrees with the sensibilities of the moral majority. Borg mentality about a role you shouldn't even be required to perform in the first place. I said it in another thread, the way this game has handled raid roles is nothing short of disgraceful. This thread is why I've completely abandoned playing as a healer. Because this community has made it abundantly clear it's not interested in healing even when playing as a healer.

[Alistaire]

Because this is the attitude that this game has come to foster. Not only do you need to DPS as a healer, your DPS is so vitally important even as the purest, main heal class it's time to sling insults if the manner in which you DPS disagrees with the sensibilities of the moral majority. Borg mentality about a role you shouldn't even be required to perform in the first place. I said it in another thread, the way this game has handled raid roles is nothing short of disgraceful. This thread is why I've completely abandoned playing as a healer. Because this community has made it abundantly clear it's not interested in healing even when playing as a healer.

These posts...you should really go look up what makes a good argument and what makes a bad one. Just google "rules of logic" or "logical fallacies".

[Megotaku]

These posts...you should really go look up what makes a good argument and what makes a bad one. Just google "rules of logic" or "logical fallacies".

Not only did you not address a single premise of my argument, your argument is called a "red herring". Irony...