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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    I actually wonder how many times in the history of MMORPGs has the issue of powerleveling been disputed? And why, after nearly two decades, it's suddenly okay in this genre?

    Oh wait, it's not. Because when people can skip the core mechanic of a MMORPG, it's a different kind of game.

    Phew, I almost got confused, there.
    Who are you to define what the core mechanic of a mmorpg is? Things are constantly changing, the way we listen to music has changed over the years but we are still listening to music. And it has been ok in many...many ...many...mmorpgs i have played in the past. bold....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Who are you to define what the core mechanic of a mmorpg is? Things are constantly changing, the way we listen to music has changed over the years but we are still listening to music. And it has been ok in many...many ...many...mmorpgs i have played in the past. bold....
    Character progression is a core mechanic in every MMORPG. Without it the rest of the game would be meaningless. Without character progression you may as well be playinga lobby game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarp View Post
    Character progression is a core mechanic in every MMORPG. Without it the rest of the game would be meaningless. Without character progression you may as well be playinga lobby game.
    Using bold text makes me sound like I am driving down a bumpy road while I talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarp View Post
    Character progression is a core mechanic in every MMORPG. Without it the rest of the game would be meaningless. Without character progression you may as well be playinga lobby game.
    You are right character progression is the core mechanic of the game...LEVELING IS NOT. You still progress after leveling!

    Think of it this way in terms of progression, idk if anyone has beaten Ifrit yet, but im going to assume that he is impossible as of right now without a progression of your character. As it is, crafted weapons and armor maybe the best items available with materia in it, and untill your character progresses in this area you will not be able to progress in the game itself. Getting classes leveled up at a decent rate can only help this cause.

    As i know that once i get the 2 classes i want to 45+ im going to go crazy in the crafting department. The sooner i can get past leveling my 2 DoM the sooner i can enjoy the game.
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    Last edited by Mindx3; 10-09-2011 at 01:26 AM. Reason: ninja edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    You are right character progression is the core mechanic of the game...LEVELING IS NOT.
    What do you think leveling is? It is character progression in the purest sense of the term. Of course there is character progression beyond leveling, but to get to that point you have to progress your character by leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarp View Post
    you have to progress your character by leveling.
    You can progress your character by leveling slow.

    You can progress your character by leveling fast.

    Choose the way you enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    You can progress your character by leveling slow.

    You can progress your character by leveling fast.

    Choose the way you enjoy.
    You can choose to get mad at the plvl killing all your mobs while you're trying to have a legitimate party.
    Edit; Yes, it has already happened to me. Few hours ago.

    You can choose to give up and get a plvl.

    Or, you can choose to help send the message that this needs to be fixed.
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    Last edited by Issac; 10-09-2011 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    You can choose to get mad at the plvl killing all your mobs while you're trying to have a legitimate party.
    Adding more mobs with a faster respawn rate would make this never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    You can progress your character by leveling slow.

    You can progress your character by leveling fast.

    Choose the way you enjoy.
    How exactly does that fit within the context of my post and the post I was replying to? We weren't talking about the speed of progression. We were talking about the broad concept of character progression.

    We get it. Play the game in a way that you enjoy and ignore everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Who are you to define what the core mechanic of a mmorpg is? Things are constantly changing, the way we listen to music has changed over the years but we are still listening to music. And it has been ok in many...many ...many...mmorpgs i have played in the past. bold....
    The hallmark of roleplaying games have always been levels and story. When you look at the term MMORPG, you must note that it is a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.

    If you need a visual representation that very simply represents what the core or a RPG is, please follow this link. It is a VERY simple "rpg" that displays those two core components of a RPG.

    http://www.sophiehoulden.com/games/thelinearrpg/

    If you make it possible to skip progression, it is no longer a RPG. And no, let's not take the words "role playing game" literally, as you understand (At least I hope) what roleplaying games have been for the past 4+ decades.
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    Last edited by Issac; 10-09-2011 at 01:23 AM.