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  1. #401
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    If this game actually does take off and become successful
    It never will. This is a moot point, and a definitive one, they can give it away with naked bikini models and people still will not buy it. What we are in right now is known as bonus time, while they get it up to a standard they can leave it running at for a few years, while they work on their next big thing.

    I am not trying to hurt anyones feelings or anything, but this game has a massive hatred towards it from pretty much the entire gaming universe, it is a laughing stock. New players will be practically impossible to coax in, it will just exist on the subs of around 300,000-500,000 at an absolute optimistic maximum. Most of these subs will come from the multiple accounts people now have, and won't want to lose once the game starts charging monthly, which I assume is coming pretty soon.
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  2. #402
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    All I see here is people complaining about power leveling and want to lower the exp!

    In fact by doing it people like me who solo will be stuck at rank 30 for years!
    I solo and struggle and work my ass of to get any were!

    And on top of that look at the server I play on (melmond) everyone was level 50 before patch and I could never find a party and now I get a bit quicker exp not by much people decided OMG its breaking the game!

    Not to mention its got a lot harder to solo as low levels now do less damage and take more and get stuck fighting enemy's way lower then what they are!

    I don't agree with power leveling but so what if people want be lame and do it let them cause in the end it just be there Friends playing with them or they just be so useless no 1 will play with them anyway and everyone will know who they are so whats the big deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    It never will. This is a moot point, and a definitive one, they can give it away with naked bikini models and people still will not buy it. What we are in right now is known as bonus time, while they get it up to a standard they can leave it running at for a few years, while they work on their next big thing.

    Why do you continue to post/play if you think this game is never going to be good? If everyone hates it why are you here?
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    If this was such a major problem they would've hot fixed it by now. Something tells me they wanted this, but not to this extent.
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    I am not trying to hurt anyones feelings or anything, but this game has a massive hatred towards it from pretty much the entire gaming universe, it is a laughing stock.
    Most people are indifferent towards the game. The truly passionate people are pretty much in extreme minority.

    If this was such a major problem they would've hot fixed it by now. Something tells me they wanted this, but not to this extent.
    Yoshida has stated this is the direction he wants the game to move to. It's a mistake, but that's something he has to realize himself.
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    any respond from SE yet. this topic has become so hot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missionman View Post
    any respond from SE yet. this topic has become so hot
    Either:
    1. Have something in the works for 1.19a
    2. Waiting for the dust to settle (As mentioned by the rep)
    3. Don't care

    Same thing happened when Abyssea was released and everyone was playing with the astronomical new exp gains. SE didn't say anything. At this point, it is easy to assume this was somewhat intended.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 10-08-2011 at 11:04 PM.

  8. #408
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    Originally Posted by KamikazeMan It might as well be considered cheating.
    For something to be considered cheating, it would have to be against the rules of the game. Since PL at this current time is NOT against the rules of the game, that would mean PL at this current time is NOT cheating.

    Originally Posted by Jericho When leveling is that easy, all the gear from 1-49 is completely and utterly useless.
    All gear can be worn at any level by any level of player to "spiritbond" with and then be turned into "materia". All gear of any level at any level, therefore, has a use for all players. Furthermore, players who choose to not PL have a use for all levels of gear.

    Originally Posted by Blarp Character progression is the most crucial part of an MMO.
    For you. Character progression is still an option available "for you" if you decide to play FFXIV.

    Originally Posted by Rinsui You throw a exploitable mechanic in a MMO, and expect players will not exploit it.
    For something to be exploited, it would have to be used in a way that was not intended by the one-in-charge. Yoshi-P is the person who decides if something is allowed or not in FFXIV, so he is in charge of if something is being used in a way that was not intended. IF Yoshi-P decided that the current form of PL in FFXIV is being used the way HE intended, then everyone else is free to like or not like Yoshi-P's version of PLing and then choose to PL or not, but that does not mean anyone is exploiting PLing if they choose to PL.

    Originally Posted by Travesty There isn't even 10% of the end game content they'd need to satisfy advancement as rapid as this.
    If that is how someone feels, then the option to advance slowly is what they are looking for and is already in the game for them to use.

    Originally Posted by Travesty Ok, why not just start the game fully geared, inside the Ifrit instance, in a party.
    If enough players ask for this option and if it were possible to do in a cost efficient way, I am quite sure the devs would put the option to do this in FFXIV.

    Originally Posted by Senprum This is ridiculous. I can't find a good solution for this. People are powerleveling like crazies right now.
    There would have to be a problem for you to find a solution for. People PLing like crazy is not a problem unless they were forced to do it and they did not want to. Since no one can force someone to PL when they don't want to, there is no problem.

    Originally Posted by Senprum The content pre-50 is pointless.
    Not for the players who do not wish to PL.

    Originally Posted by Nanaya PLing is the perfect opportunity for RMT to plan ahead and stockpile level 50s.
    RMT can stockpile 50s anytime they play. It does not matter how many players are lvl 50 regardless if they are RMT or not. What matters is if the players and devs can "tell" who is RMT or not.
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    Last edited by Crica; 10-09-2011 at 12:32 AM.

  9. #409
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Most people are indifferent towards the game. The truly passionate people are pretty much in extreme minority.



    Yoshida has stated this is the direction he wants the game to move to. It's a mistake, but that's something he has to realize himself.
    So he definitely wants people to get 50 in less than a month?

    Oh boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomagi View Post
    Why do you continue to post/play if you think this game is never going to be good? If everyone hates it why are you here?
    I didn't say I didn't like it, and as I clearly pointed out, the ones playing it are those that stuck with it from the beginning, ala me. I actually enjoy it, and love seeing all the honking on this forum, it sates my appetite for human muppetry.

    Tell me how you think this game will all of a sudden be successful?

    Do you honestly think that all those people who tried it on release and saw how bad it was would openly return, purchase the game (if they only played the beta) shelling out their cash, just to give it another chance, after seeing such a poor first attempt? also in turn, you think that all those that didn't try it, but saw the terribad reviews, and awful word of mouth generated on release will just go "Oh I am sure SE have done a great job this time, I mean look at their last few games, all masterpie...c...es.... oh yeah, they were bad too, but LOLZ here is ma cash! Account please!"

    Personally I keep giving it a chance, as I just love the Final Fantasy worlds, and this one, while not a great attempt, is a nice distraction till GW2 comes out. I don't have issues with the game myself, but I do find it amusing how many people on this forum get so angry about a game they pay nothing for, when we all know the games fate. It's like shouting at a an incontinent dog for peeing on the carpet. You knew it was going to happen, you expected it, no point getting bent out of shape about it.
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    Last edited by Vahzl; 10-08-2011 at 11:28 PM.

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