I am disappointed with Deep Dungeon

[ChocoFeru]

If it gave ilv400 weapons, people would be happy about it.

Some of you care too much about digital items and forget about the fun/challenge.


Anyways, it's just floor 1-50, it's supposed to be casual content at this point. It won't be considered a true challenge until floor 200 is released IMO.

Deep Dungeon looks good so far for now, and I'm hyped for the 51+ floors!

[TankHunter678]

Not without a longer time limit, it isn't, and certainly not by every class.
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Letter from the Producer LIVE at E3, June 15th, from Yoshi-P himself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6i5ZBLR9U

[Anad]

If it gave ilv400 weapons, people would be happy about it.

Some of you care too much about digital items and forget about the fun/challenge.


Anyways, it's just floor 1-50, it's supposed to be casual content at this point. It won't be considered a true challenge until floor 200 is released IMO.

Deep Dungeon looks good so far for now, and I'm hyped for the 51+ floors!

If it gave an ilv400 weapon, people will complain its better stuff than whats available in Savage and it will kill raiding XD

Letter from the Producer LIVE at E3, June 15th, from Yoshi-P himself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6i5ZBLR9U

To emphasise TankHunter's point, within the first 5 minutes of the video Yoshi-P says its a content to be casually accessed. So not sure where the expectation that this was supposed to be a gruel and challenging content for end gamers.

[Celef]

If it gave an ilv400 weapon, people will complain its better stuff than whats available in Savage and it will kill raiding XD

Not to mention crafters who will complain that its better stuff than whats available with crafts and it will kill crafts xD

Why go through that for a 235 when i can just kill Nidhogg EX? Also queues are always fast on release give it time.

Because in EX party it's, most of the time (and i'm not saying all the time)
"shit a new player ! he's going to ruin my experience" /leave
"shit a wipe ! it's going to ruin my experience" /leave

At least in Deep dungeon, you can try to solo it, meaning you don't depend on unpleaseant players

[Brian_]

My problem with PotD is that while the shallow perception is that it's something different, it really isn't. It falls into the exact same mold all their side-content has.

So, how is PotD no different from stuff like Verminion, Diadem, TT, etc.? People here will constantly complain about content longevity and how none of the content is designed to truly last. PotD doesn't break that mold.

How exactly is PotD going to last? Once people farm it enough to get the mount, minions, and the weapons they want, what's going to keep enough people coming back to sustain it?

The materia V? You get materia V much faster from Diadem and nobodies does Diadem anymore.

The tomestones? You get tomestones much faster from other means. As we've seen since the dawn of this game, whenever tomestones are relevant, people will find the most efficient way to farm them and flock to that.

The exp? Again, you get exp much faster from other means. For those that are focused on leveling, they will flock to more efficient methods. And, leveling is a finite pursuit. You eventually reach the level cap.

Solo queue-able? Diadem is solo queue-able. Nobody does.

At the end of the day, the question is if the gameplay is fun enough for enough people that they can sustain it despite the lack of any other real content incentive. I don't think it is.

[vp_cmc]

Deep Dungeon looks good so far for now, and I'm hyped for the 51+ floors!

No, now you have to farm first 50 floors for 3 months before you can get your 51+ floor.

Solo queue-able? Diadem is solo queue-able. Nobody does.

Is it? People meant that you can do the content solo, not put yourself into the waiting queue. Can I start doing diadem solo (gathering for example) without waiting for or making a group? That would be nice.

[ChocoFeru]

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PotD at this point is like a pre-PVP Season. The first 50 floors are the easy ones just to show how the system works.

When SE releases til 200 floor, it's supposed to be really hard to reach 200, and they're going to put a ranking just like PVP so people who reaches a certain floor will rank up (Similar to Diablo?) with a website showing who went farther than the rest.

Can't really complain about rewards and stuff yet since it's an incomplete content still.

[Felis]

Solo queue-able? Diadem is solo queue-able. Nobody does.

Nobody does because nobody can.
You need 7 other players if you queue in Ishgard or minimum 1 other player if you queue in a FC workshop.

The materia V? You get materia V much faster from Diadem and nobodies does Diadem anymore.

You get materia V faster from the 24 man raid than from Diadem (because of queue time)

[Anad]

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Well first difference is that you start from Lv1, and quickly ramp up to Lv60 with all the skills and abilities to try out the class. This might be irrelevant to people with max level all classes, but the player base is NOT comprised of them. The majority will have a class or two that they never levelled, in my case I have put Healer classes into the back log out of laziness and maybe since am not a good healer to begin with. PotD gave me the chance to quickly try AST without going through many hours of levelling, and found it an interesting class, albeit demanding.

Second difference, there is no pressure what so ever to do it, as its not part of the gear tread mill. Another anecdotal example, I went in for 3 hours of Weeping City farming but never got my item, and after all the wipes and frustration I went to PotD solo with DRK just to relax and challenge my self a bit. For me, that was a reward within it self, seeing how long I can go all by myself. What I found is now am reading every single detail of abilities to try and figure what tactics I can use to safely and quickly do the floors.

Ultimately, there is not a single content that provides the above things for me in the current game outside PotD. For that I think it was a success, a huge contrast to what Diadem ended up being.

[aesteval]

Not to mention crafters who will complain that its better stuff than whats available with crafts and it will kill crafting.

Crafters first have to have recipes to make high level weapons in the first place before crafting could potentially be killed by it. :-p