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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Don't feel like looking it up. You look it up.
    No, cause you're full of crap lol. Prior to this patch it would have been impossible.

    And even if you weren't full of crap, it's not my job to prove your stupid claims. You made them, you prove them.
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  2. #352
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    There's people that donate crafting materials to a person so that he can achieve lv 50 craft. So, while gather and slowly and painfully craft grind slowly, it's okay for that person to get donated crafting items? I can easily complain he got help while everyone else are busting their asses burning time just to get 1 level crafting rank a day.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    No, cause you're full of crap lol. Prior to this patch it would have been impossible.

    And even if you weren't full of crap, it's not my job to prove your stupid claims. You made them, you prove them.
    Nice made up false quote. I never said that, but whatever pleases your fantasy argument. Seriously, how many alt accounts are you going to use to like your created post?
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    There's people that donate crafting materials to a person so that he can achieve lv 50 craft. So, while gather and slowly and painfully craft grind slowly, it's okay for that person to get donated crafting items? I can easily complain he got help while everyone else are busting their asses burning time just to get 1 level crafting rank a day.
    You can buy mats on the markets too. That's a terrible argument cause you still have to craft everything yourself, you can't have someone else make you physically craft faster.
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Nice made up false quote. I never said that, but whatever pleases your fantasy argument. Seriously, how many alt accounts are you going to use to like your created post?
    So you think editing your post to say "Grumble..." will make people think you didn't say what I quoted? Wooooow. Like that's never been done on a forum before lol.
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    My point exactly. People will enjoy an advantage and feel the need to complain just so the other players will not receive the benefit of joining a high level exp chaining. Kinda like the same complaint with summoner exp method from XI.
    I think the point people are trying to make is that if someone jumps alot of levels within on fight and the becomes reliant on not have to fight for themselves (worst case scenario), then they wont know "how to play" by the time they hit the current cap.

    I can see Yoshi wanting other higher levels to help lower levels without restrictions and being rewarded, but the exp rate is a little too high for that. Just dont want people not understanding certain abilities/ how to play a certain class by the time they hit 50, since everyone is having to relearn things at this point / skip over certain areas/items. Its nothing about racing, bragging rights, entitlement, or anything of that nature.

    Maybe i'm over thinking it...but if people jump pretty far in levels in a short time, that kinds kills the usefulness of lower level items implemented since you'd skip right over em (especially since now there is a decent amount of variation every 3-6 levels in equipment). Or maybe only a few people will do it because frankly...it's pretty boring.
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  7. #357
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    My buddy just hit 50 Lnc and wanted to help our lS out by helping us level up, so we decided to go and kill raptors. It was 3of us 31arch 39 cnj and 50 lnc fighting against 46-49 raptors.

    1st. There is nothing wrong with this scenerio my 50 lnc friend is doing nothing wrong by helping us kill these raptors it is his choice to do so, he is not exploiting anything he is simply killing raptors for us while we toss him heals. He managed to get mostly chain 4 with 1133 xp going from 850 1k 1070 1133 each group of links took about 3-5 minutes to kill. And keeping him alive wasnt always easy although he never died. All in all i managed to get 40 and pretty much the end of 40 but not quite 41 in about 1hr 30min.

    In all honesty while he didnt do chain 5 chain 4 is pretty high and our xp bar was moving at a decent rate...but its nothing ground breaking....

    In fact i had another ls group going earlier with a 50 glad killing ixalis by camp glory (25thm 30arch 31 pug 50 gld), while the gld didnt kill as efficiently we were only getting 550+ xp with low chains, meanwhile a group of 34-36 were killing much more effectivly than our group and definatly doing chain 5. All in all in about 6 1/2 hours playtime in between fighting dieing looking for camps breaks etc i managed to gain 2 3/4 lvls on my cnj and about 2 lvls on my thm about 20 more minutes of fighting raptors it would have been 3 lvls for cnj.

    Thats not that bad really.....maybe we are doing it wrong but we cant seem to get 24k in 5 minutes Are Mages rly this strong !?!?

    Now that i think about it 1 star R40 leves gave my con 4.5-5k xp plus 350+ for each mob for a 5-10 min leve and the raptors which took about 5 min gave me a bit less . I think this whole system is balanced after all
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    Last edited by Mindx3; 10-08-2011 at 05:42 PM.

  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    You can buy mats on the markets too. That's a terrible argument cause you still have to craft everything yourself, you can't have someone else make you physically craft faster.
    Okay genius. Raptor sinew went from 1k to now 10k and up. http://www.ffxivpro.com/item/10007506/raptor-sinew
    You really think I can throw gil like that out there? Will wand of tremor from a simple 100k item to 440k currently on wutai. You call that normal? Every time the wards reset, so does the market leaving the ward campers to F((( with the prices.
    Cotton yarn from 600g to 5k a piece. Need I say more.

    You people want to complain after using an advantage. I'm not surprised.
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    There's people that donate crafting materials to a person so that he can achieve lv 50 craft. So, while gather and slowly and painfully craft grind slowly, it's okay for that person to get donated crafting items? I can easily complain he got help while everyone else are busting their asses burning time just to get 1 level crafting rank a day.
    What a terrible comparison.
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  10. #360
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    Travesty Eidolon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fouluryu View Post
    Okay genius. Raptor sinew went from 1k to now 10k and up. http://www.ffxivpro.com/item/10007506/raptor-sinew
    You really think I can throw gil like that out there? Will wand of tremor from a simple 100k item to 440k currently on wutai. You call that normal? Every time the wards reset, so does the market leaving the ward campers to F((( with the prices.
    Cotton yarn from 600g to 5k a piece. Need I say more.

    You people want to complain after using an advantage. I'm not surprised.
    You missed the point entirely. No matter how you get the mats, you still can't have someone make you physically craft faster. And people who've been in the game long enough have more than enough money to buy all the mats.

    Feel free to ninja edit your post again.
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