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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vantol View Post
    What's the difference? There is no:
    1. Interaction with environment.
    2. Different combat objectives.
    3. None combat objectives.
    4. Puzzles.
    5. Different ways to complete floor.
    6. Different paths to room X.

    SE just managed to hit a bottom of creativity.
    1. Pom items that affect the environment. Avoid traps by hugging the walls. There is no healer/smn to ress your ass so you got to be careful.
    2. Kill things to level up, kill things to unlock the portal to the next level. Avoid pulling deadly mob pairs (slimes, bees). Sneak past mobs when there are too many to kill.
    3. Get chests. They are vital to your progress when soloing (dps buff, defensive buff, clear debuff off of yourself, put a debuff on last boss, reduce enemy spawns).
    4. Efficient use of buffs. Figuring out the best path between mobs and finding the correct rooms.
    5. Choices between time-efficiency and getting levels and chests.
    6. There are circular floors where 4 rooms are connected to each other like a doughnut.

    So, did you try it? What was your job and how far did you get? I went in as AST and got somewhere past floor 11 before dying. Going to try SCH tomorrow.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 07-20-2016 at 10:05 AM.
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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
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    Killing mobs and opening chests are not puzzles, the same way choosing between time efficency and levels is not a different way to complete the floor.

    Buffs and debuffs and mobs and chests and levels are nothing new. When we say 'puzzles' we were hoping for things such as riddles or different keys to unlock gates or something that actually makes you think. Not 'hmm I either kill this mob or proceed'.
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    Raifu Kurogaea
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    1. Pom items that affect the environment. Avoid traps by hugging the walls. There is no healer/smn to ress your ass so you got to be careful.
    2. Kill things to level up, kill things to unlock the portal to the next level. Avoid pulling deadly mob pairs (slimes, bees). Sneak past mobs when there are too many to kill.
    3. Get chests. They are vital to your progress when soloing (dps buff, defensive buff, clear debuff off of yourself, put a debuff on last boss, reduce enemy spawns).
    4. Efficient use of buffs. Figuring out the best path between mobs and finding the correct rooms.
    5. Choices between time-efficiency and getting levels and chests.
    6. There are circular floors where 4 rooms are connected to each other like a doughnut.

    So, did you try it? What was your job and how far did you get? I went in as AST and got somewhere past floor 11 before dying. Going to try SCH tomorrow.
    got to floor 20 before running out of time. There isn't much of a reason to do but to just do it. Getting silver chest will be a pain because there's no other reason to go in there if your not getting the aether gear maxed out. Your not getting bonus exp or anything. In fact your better off running with 4 people (obviously) and your not getting any different of an experience if your playing it safe. You'll always be avoiding unnecessary enemies, avoiding traps, buffing, and debuffing. Only reason I'm doing it so much is it makes for a more interesting way to lvl your classes and that 235 weapon we can get solidifying our aether stuff.
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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    1. Pom items that affect the environment. Avoid traps by hugging the walls. There is no healer/smn to ress your ass so you got to be careful.
    2. Kill things to level up, kill things to unlock the portal to the next level. Avoid pulling deadly mob pairs (slimes, bees). Sneak past mobs when there are too many to kill.
    3. Get chests. They are vital to your progress when soloing (dps buff, defensive buff, clear debuff off of yourself, put a debuff on last boss, reduce enemy spawns).
    4. Efficient use of buffs. Figuring out the best path between mobs and finding the correct rooms.
    5. Choices between time-efficiency and getting levels and chests.
    6. There are circular floors where 4 rooms are connected to each other like a doughnut.

    So, did you try it? What was your job and how far did you get? I went in as AST and got somewhere past floor 11 before dying. Going to try SCH tomorrow.
    You're grasping at straws trying to make this seem like it's amazing content... And these reason really only apply to someone soloing which is not the majority of people playing.

    They could have done so many things to make this completely random and interesting content. A tonberry chasing you on floor 33, then the next floor is a bomb that will explode in 5 minutes and wipe if you don't get to the next floor, etc.

    Things like that could have made it challenging and interesting. But fighting the same mobs with traps here and there on EVERY SINGLE FLOOR is a lot cooler. And please don't bring up the floor enchantments. Most of them aren't even a hassle to deal with except the ability one.
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