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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godking View Post

    Deal with it. If they want to fix it, they will. If they thought it was a problem they probably wouldn't have released it like that. Also, they could've hot fixed it already.

    Keep that in mind.
    This is the only reason i dont think its truly broken, i tested it and was getting 1k xp chains, 650+ per mob at 38 fighting lvl 49 mobs ...while this was nice, pre patch i was getting 450 xp solo on ixali's by camp glory lvl43-49 and a bit more duo (plus alot faster duo). On top of this i was getting 4.5k+ xp per leve at 5 star with friends (Which is very hard now). Also i know at lower levels i was able to pull off 650+ xp off mobs higher than me in 1.18 and it went faster with a party.

    If anything this update simply streamlined xp, yes its faster, but not much faster. You have to remember that alot of mobs are grouped now and strategicly i might add so xp will be coming in faster in general not just with a plvl....i really like overall mob placement good job dev team on that one! What happens when you finally save up 99 leves and decide to burn them all with a group? I would say your going to level up pretty quickly!

    While being powerleveled i didnt really consider it being powerleveled it was more like my friend asking me if i want to go kill higher level stuff with him, its not like he 1 shot the mob, i was still tossing heals and the occasional spell i could do to the mob.
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  2. #322
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that PL is the intended way to progress in the game?
    no, I am stating for a fact that Yoshi-P (you know, the PRODUCER of the game) did, however, so we all can help our FRIENDS and BUDDIES catch up to us and play together with them....

    Straight from Yoshi - P: Power Leveling was given by Yoshi-P to the players with his blessing! /joy!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...810-07-2011%29

    Q: After the claiming system change in patch 1.19, I'm afraid everyone will be power leveling each other. What do you think of this?

    A: It depends on what you consider power leveling. For example, if my friend and I were playing completely different games. I've already reached the level 50 cap, and then I invite my friend. Of course I want to do end game content like Ifrit with him, but I invited him, and he wants to play too, and we are really good friends so I want to help him out.

    I can help him out with my level 50 character when he's being attacked by a monster. Of course it's going to lower the XP a bit, but I'd like to make it a bit loose and not too strict. I just want to make sure friends are able to help each other if they want to challenge content together by filling the gap.
    Much <3, Yoshi-P, much <3!!
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  3. #323
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    I'm aware that he said that. What I'm not convinced of is that he understands how excessively effective it is right now, which would make it abuse of a design oversight. I'm not condemning anyone for grabbing on to the opportunity, that's the rational thing to do, but I do think it needs to be neutered as an option or at least significantly nerfed so that you'll only achieve a minor benefit from PL.

    When you give players an easy way and a hard way, they'll eventually all start using the easy way only, which was evident in FFXI once PL for low levels was discovered. PL was very rare pre-2006. Then all of a sudden just about every <L30 group had a high level healer holding people's hands so they didn't have to worry about tanking, healing or enmity management. You still couldn't actually have them join the group and help you kill the target and the benefits quickly tapered off at 40+, but it was still hugely damaging for the integrity of the game at early levels. The skill level of less experienced players also noticeably went down because a whole generation of players never had to figure out how to play.
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  4. #324
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    The majority of people on Selbina I see are not being power leveled. Grouping by itself is such an insane way to gain XP that I really don't think PL ever will be the main form of leveling for everyone.

    Just lucky bastards who have someone willing to power level them.
    Maybe you not going to the low level areas but everything i go there some person being powerlevel and i must find other spot to party with my friends. So just because you have not yet saw them does not mean it not happening.
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    Last edited by Zenaku; 10-08-2011 at 10:15 AM.
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  5. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    no, I am stating for a fact that Yoshi-P (you know, the PRODUCER of the game) did, however, so we all can help our FRIENDS and BUDDIES catch up to us and play together with them....

    Straight from Yoshi - P: Power Leveling was given by Yoshi-P to the players with his blessing! /joy!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...810-07-2011%29

    Much <3, Yoshi-P, much <3!!
    He allowing powerlevel yes but he said you get less EXP not get the full amount or you can't read that part? You should not be getting 500+ exp for someone killing mob 10-15mobs for someone who level 15 and the mobs also 20-30+ level over the person. So at the end the game is broken and the powerleveling much be gimp so people don't get 500-1k+ exp for killing mobs for you that over 10+ level over you.

    There a lot of things is broken in this patch the hate control being one of them.

    It seem there over 70+ so people are agreeing that is broken all you people just want a easy way to get 50 without doing much work. The point of a game is to level up grind yourself up to max level and then do endgame. But it seem now at days everyone just want to do the endgame part without even trying to get max level.

    There many way SE can help ppl get more exp and level up faster, "EXP ring" "Link account" and the person still have to grind just take less time. Right now i can get 1-38 and ask a friend or my gf to powerlevel me while i'm sleeping. Then 38-50 i do stronghold and get 1+k and make 80k or over. I still don't understand why you people think this is ok there not even enough to do at 50 for us to be level up this fast. I understand if we talking about FFXI or wow where there lot's to do but even then FFXI and wow had stuff to do low level. FFXI garrison at 20 and then again at 30 there BCNM you could hunt down NM you could do lot's of rewarding and fun quest.

    So getting level 50 in this game just to do what? dungeon,ifrit, strong holds? that not even enough stuff to do to make hardcore or casual something to do. All we have Atm is level up or maybe i just don't see the big picture here we can make this game casual but still be hard and fun i guess people don't understand that.
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  6. #326
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    The entire point of this thread is to let the devs know, hey this is not okay.

    But it's also to find out where the majority opinion lies. I'm still waiting on finding out. Because if the majority of players on FFXIV want to skip 40 levels in a day, levels being the meat of any MMO, then I really don't want to be around. If the majority wants this removed, great, I want to be around.

    Make levels pointless in a MMORPG and you simply have a new kind of game. Let's call is MMOAG. Massive Multiplayer Online Adventure Game. In any RPG I have EVER played, leveling was a core mechanic and you couldn't just skip through the levels. I must be crazy, but I still enjoy the progression aspect after a couple decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    But it's also to find out where the majority opinion lies. I'm still waiting on finding out. Because if the majority of players on FFXIV want to skip 40 levels in a day, levels being the meat of any MMO, then I really don't want to be around. If the majority wants this removed, great, I want to be around.
    Yeah, this is exactly how I feel. I've played hardly any since the patch, cause if this is how it's meant to be and how it stays, I won't be sticking around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    People generally enjoy cheating at least in the short term. That doesn't make it a good idea to let people cheat.
    The game being programmed like this on purpose is considered cheating? Who would have ever thought!? It is not an exploit, it is not a computer bot leveling your character up for you, so please do explain to me how it is cheating? Oh wait you just can't, too bad so sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    The game being programmed like this on purpose is considered cheating? Who would have ever thought!? It is not an exploit, it is not a computer bot leveling your character up for you, so please do explain to me how it is cheating? Oh wait you just can't, too bad so sad.
    Yes, it's true. After all, games ARE always programmed correctly the first time, every time, with no unintended consequences that are brought to light by the community. Touché.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    The game being programmed like this on purpose is considered cheating? Who would have ever thought!? It is not an exploit, it is not a computer bot leveling your character up for you, so please do explain to me how it is cheating? Oh wait you just can't, too bad so sad.
    You don't read do you? it's a Exploit because you getting more EXP then you should by killing high mobs for a low level. You should be getting less for someone killing a 30 but no you getting 500-1k with exp chain that how it become a Exploit and top of that should not allow this type of powerleveling.

    And it seem a like think the same about this issue that what the forums are for to ask for stuff and also tell them to take stuff out.
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