I guess it's time

[RiceisNice]

Want to know something funny aswell for thoese who didnt understand Tanakas work?
He was clearly planning ahead and imo thats the beauty of SEs MMORPG franchise.
The graphics FFXIV 1.0 had where meant for computers today could handle and you could see the wonderful graphics.

Honestly on the input of game graphics and presentation, it's a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model. At best, it's misplaced; even my current rig (which ran me about 1.3k and it's only a year old) with a nvidia 970 would probably have problems running 1.0 at max settings. All of that comes at the cost of having a lively open world; instead you'd get barrened landscapes with tunnels. Lots of tunnels.

[LalafellDown]

Honestly on the input of game graphics and presentation, it's a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model. At best, it's misplaced; even my current rig (which ran me about 1.3k and it's only a year old) with a nvidia 970 would probably have problems running 1.0 at max settings. All of that comes at the cost of having a lively open world; instead you'd get barrened landscapes with tunnels. Lots of tunnels.

didn't have a problem running at full settings with my 3 5870's at the time also wasn't this posted on reddit ====> "a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model"

if 1.x still continued to this day i'm sure running it with my 2 290X cards wouldn't be a problem. Getting 144FPS in dungeons and about 80 plus in the world.

[RiceisNice]

didn't have a problem running at full settings with my 3 5870's at the time also wasn't this posted on reddit ====> "a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model"

if 1.x still continued to this day i'm sure running it with my 2 290X cards wouldn't be a problem. Getting 144FPS in dungeons and about 80 plus in the world.

I didn't take it from reddit, but it's frequently cited, even by the developers themselves in a presentation. .

And even then if you can run it, just how much does your rig cost? The very high requirements diminishes the amount of players that can reasonably enjoy the game's presentation. The game felt overly ambitious in what it wanted to do and lost sight of the important factors, and I feel like they're rounding about into the same problem with the heavensward updates (Diadem, PvP in general, etc)

[LalafellDown]

I didn't take it from reddit, but it's frequently cited, even by the developers themselves in a presentation. .

And even then if you can run it, just how much does your rig cost? The very high requirements diminishes the amount of players that can reasonably enjoy the game's presentation. The game felt overly ambitious in what it wanted to do and lost sight of the important factors, and I feel like they're rounding about into the same problem with the heavensward updates (Diadem, PvP in general, etc)

I bought 3 290x cards for $500 each but only use 2.
$500 or $600 for the CPU
$200 (maybe less was a long time ago) for the 16GB memory
power supply cant remember bought a long time ago 1200w 4xultra
whole liquid cooling setup with case total about $600 maybe less
msi z97 gaming 7 mother board $200 for got to add <===== (edit)
so total of $2000 (with one card) $2500 (with 2 cards) I think maybe more like $3200 (with 3 cards)

playing this on 1 card full settings works fine as well. I like to play windowed boarder less so i can surf the net with ease.
with one card i get about 50 to 80 in cities/world. dungeons are 60+ stays around 80+ when i was fighting (just tested it out)

[RiceisNice]

so total of $2000 (with one card) $2500 (with 2 cards) I think maybe more like $3200 (with 3 cards)

playing this on 1 card full settings works fine as well. I like to play windowed boarder less so i can surf the net with ease.
with one card i get about 50 to 80 in cities/world. dungeons are 60+ stays around 80+ when i was fighting (just tested it out)

Now that's sort of the problem when you're looking at a subscription based MMO. If it's that demanding for a rig to play the game at maximum, imagine the recommeneded or even minimum. It makes for the game to not be very accessible for people who don't have the rig to do so, and those that do are not able to fully enjoy the beauty of the game (which would probably not make up the gameplay). The requirements for 2.0 are much much lower than what it was previously, that even PS3 can semi-reliably run the game.

... in order to draw in players from that game at the end of patch cycle when most are looking for something else to do. Not saying YoshiP is doing bad but lets not pretend Tanaka was given even half the favorable situations that YoshiP was before you go burying him for his choices.

At the same time, I feel that people need to stop praising Yoshida for saving FFXIV with 2.0. We're in 3.x now and it feels like the game is in a rut with their over ambitious ideas and content.

[LalafellDown]

Now that's sort of the problem when you're looking at a subscription based MMO. If it's that demanding for a rig to play the game at maximum, imagine the recommeneded or even minimum. It makes for the game to not be very accessible for people who don't have the rig to do so, and those that do are not able to fully enjoy the beauty of the game (which would probably not make up the gameplay). The requirements for 2.0 are much much lower than what it was previously, that even PS3 can semi-reliably run the game.

I still have my FF14 1.0 box and the requirements for 1.0 is much lower than 2.0

FF14 2.0
Minimum System Requirements

Operating System: Windows Vista 32/64bit, Windows 7 32/64 bit, Windows 8 32/64 bit, Windows 8.1 32/64 bit.
Processor: Intel Core2 Duo 3GHz.
Graphics: NVIDIA Geforce 8800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770.
Memory: 2GB (4GB recommended for 64bit OS)
Disk Space: 20GB.
Broadband internet connection.

FF14 1.0
OS Minimum: Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista 32-bit/64-bit Windows 7 32-bit/64-bit*
Recommended: Windows 7 32-bit/64-bit*

CPU Minimum: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz or higher
Minimum: AMD Athlon X2 2.0GHz or higher
Recommended: Intel Core i7-920 2.66GHz or higher
Recommended: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8 GHz or higher

RAM Minimum: Windows XP: 1.5GB or higher
Minimum: Windows Vista 32-bit/64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit/64bit: 2GB or higher
Recommended: Windows 7 32-bit/64-bit: 4GB or more

HDD/SDD Installation: 15GB of free space
Download: 6GB of free space on the drive containing "My Documents"

Graphics Card Minimum: nVidia GeForce 9600 or better with VRAM 512MB or more
Minimum: ATI HD 2900 or better with VRAM 512MB or more
Recommended: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 or better with VRAM 768MB or more
Recommended: ATI HD 5830 1GB or better

Also my personal setup isn't the requirement and you can spend way less than what I spent on for my PC. I bought my stuff when it was new and expensive now you can get the 290x cards for $250 and the older cards are even cheaper. if a $100 Ps3 can run FF14 think what a $500 PC can run. you can build a good PC under $500 just to run FF14 maybe even lower if you buy the old cards. I built mine to run all the new high end games like Witcher 3 on full setting or fallout 4, not just FF14.