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  1. #61
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    Mihael Blue
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Let's do some basic mathematics here:

    12, 592 reported Bennu mounts on http://www.xiv-minions.com/mounts/bennu.php (public lodestone searches I assume)
    That's 12,592 x $24 = $302,208

    8046 White Devil Mounts http://www.xiv-minions.com/mounts/white_devil.php
    8046 x $12 = $96,552

    5393 Red Baron Mounts http://www.xiv-minions.com/mounts/red_baron.php
    5393 x $12 = $64,716

    So from 3 public domain accessed lodestone profiles on mounts, we have already $463,476 raised.

    Now imagine the dyes, weddings, mounts, minions, furnitures and glamours people have bought. Do you really think this is funneled back into the game? I don't think so.

    It's been speculated before they take money from this game and funnel it into other SE projects, that's what I believe. If the money was being directly poured back into development of this game, I would support the cash shop more but I really do not believe it is so.
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  2. #62
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    It's been speculated before they take money from this game and funnel it into other SE projects, that's what I believe.
    While the pursuit of profit is not some noble endeavor that is beyond criticism, unless I'm mistaken they can do what you said above with any profits they make. FFXI has long since paid for it's development cost at this point, any money they make from it now is pure profit they can do with as they see fit. Do I think it goes back in to the game? Sure, I'm absolutely certain some of it does to cover upkeep costs and the profit can go towards whatever they want.
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  3. #63
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    While the pursuit of profit is not some noble endeavor that is beyond criticism, unless I'm mistaken they can do what you said above with any profits they make. FFXI has long since paid for it's development cost at this point, any money they make from it now is pure profit they can do with as they see fit. Do I think it goes back in to the game? Sure, I'm absolutely certain some of it does to cover upkeep costs and the profit can go towards whatever they want.
    Technically, yes - though when the developers themselves express a desire for more funding to better develop future content it makes for a tricky situation.
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  4. #64
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithe View Post
    We pay a sub, we shouldn't have a cash shop....Please stop trying to justify this.
    Well, I don't know how to break it to you, but the section where you buy stuff from the cash shop is called "Optional Items"... I trust you to know what "Optional" means.
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    Melorie Valliere
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    White Mage Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well, I don't know how to break it to you, but the section where you buy stuff from the cash shop is called "Optional Items"... I trust you to know what "Optional" means.
    So I guess that things like dyes, housing items, glamours, minions and mounts are all optional and we don't even have to put them in the game anymore.
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  6. #66
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    So I guess that things like dyes, housing items, glamours, minions and mounts are all optional and we don't even have to put them in the game anymore.
    I think you are twisting it around to fit your POV. Optional means person has the option whether they want to pay for that mount or dye. If it not in the game or cash shop it not optional it non-existent.
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  7. #67
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    So I guess that things like dyes, housing items, glamours, minions and mounts are all optional and we don't even have to put them in the game anymore.
    Did I say that? Please reread my post and exactly quote where I said that those items may as well be removed from the game. The idea of the Mog Station is vanity, you want it? Go get it. It's only for looks...
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  8. #68
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    Kon Daguerreo
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    I would like for the costume to be separeted to each parts and available colour changing. The costume of Minfilia and Cid cannot be equiped with gear to heads, hands, legs, and feet. The colours of the most story character's costume cannot be changed. I want to enjoy pikcing out an outfit.
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  9. #69
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    Aurora Aura
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    Quote Originally Posted by aoga View Post
    colour changing...The colours of the most story character's costume cannot be changed.
    That's because they are usualy not as unique as you like to think they are. Both Ameryc's and Lucia's armor used altered models of the Dusk Vigil and Level 58 Tank/DRG gear for example. Likewise in other case the same model has be used with another color sceme that cannot be replicated by dye. I;d imaging that the colors would be iconic of the character the attire is meant to evoke for cosplay purposes, an thus are unlikely to be a changeable attribute.

    As far as consistency goes, I don't think they are gonna split the glamour setup into 5 either.
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  10. #70
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    Lithe Rhaelyn
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well, I don't know how to break it to you, but the section where you buy stuff from the cash shop is called "Optional Items"... I trust you to know what "Optional" means.
    So, it's ok for you to pay extra for them instead of having SE put them in the game for free? How about you buy some common sense with all that money you insist on throwing at SE.
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