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    We pay a sub, we shouldn't have a cash shop....Please stop trying to justify this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithe View Post
    We pay a sub, we shouldn't have a cash shop....Please stop trying to justify this.
    Would you rather have the items or no extra items? I bet if there was no cash shop most those items available would not have been made available to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    Would you rather have the items or no extra items? I bet if there was no cash shop most those items available would not have been made available to us.
    Pure conjecture with no evidence to back it up where as on the other hand content is continually created for the subscription model and the lack of "Extra" content was never very apparant in other games that didn't feature the cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithe View Post
    We pay a sub, we shouldn't have a cash shop....Please stop trying to justify this.
    I understand your sentiment and I don't disagree with you, however, there comes a point where we have to make a pragmatic assessment of things. The cash shop and optional items are always going to be present in this game, it's never going to go away especially because it's a Square Enix game and that's how they roll. But honestly, so far Square Enix has shown a fair amount of restraint with their cash shop. Consider how easily they could have thrown everything so far (the region exclusive stuff such as the chinese version outfits/mount, the quest based cosmetic items, the minions, the Amazon DLC stuff, etc.) in to the cash shop and surprisingly they haven't. No one is surprised by that more than me since this is the same Square Enix that has been incredibly out of touch with it's audience, the same Square Enix that made Final Fantasy All the Bravest, and the same Square Enix that was shocked Bravely Default did as well as it did.

    So this whole "get rid of the cash shop" and "stop asking for things to go in to it" sentiment is pointless since it's too late at this point and it's never going away. I don't rush to defend SE in anything, I never hesitate to condemn them for the stuff they pull, but in this particular instance they've actually shown a great deal of restraint by keeping a good portion of costumes/minions out of the cash shop and letting people earn them by completing content. Since we are never going to get rid of the cash shop and they will always be putting more items in there (seriously, stop posting about how they shouldn't, it's tiresome), I at least want it to have items people like/request and getting identical costumes to the various NPC's is definitely something I'm not surprised to see in a cash shop.

    To clarify again, I strongly disagree with microtransactions in pay to play games, but as long as it's purely cosmetic and unobtrusive then I tolerate it. If you don't like it, speak with your wallet and don't buy things from it as I have. I have not spent any money in the cash shop as there is absolutely nothing in it that I want enough to actually drop some cash on it. I'm not so strapped for disposable income that if I wanted something I wouldn't be able to get it, there's nothing in it I could see myself spending money. But if they did by chance add Aymeric's outfit for example, I'd consider it, that might be something I'd buy, hard to say unless it's released.
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    Last edited by Khalithar; 07-12-2016 at 03:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithe View Post
    We pay a sub, we shouldn't have a cash shop....Please stop trying to justify this.
    Well, I don't know how to break it to you, but the section where you buy stuff from the cash shop is called "Optional Items"... I trust you to know what "Optional" means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well, I don't know how to break it to you, but the section where you buy stuff from the cash shop is called "Optional Items"... I trust you to know what "Optional" means.
    So I guess that things like dyes, housing items, glamours, minions and mounts are all optional and we don't even have to put them in the game anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    So I guess that things like dyes, housing items, glamours, minions and mounts are all optional and we don't even have to put them in the game anymore.
    I think you are twisting it around to fit your POV. Optional means person has the option whether they want to pay for that mount or dye. If it not in the game or cash shop it not optional it non-existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    So I guess that things like dyes, housing items, glamours, minions and mounts are all optional and we don't even have to put them in the game anymore.
    Did I say that? Please reread my post and exactly quote where I said that those items may as well be removed from the game. The idea of the Mog Station is vanity, you want it? Go get it. It's only for looks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Did I say that? Please reread my post and exactly quote where I said that those items may as well be removed from the game. The idea of the Mog Station is vanity, you want it? Go get it. It's only for looks...
    All these things that I said are just "vanity" too. The mindset that just because something is vanity then it can be sold for money in a subbed game certainly would allow these items to be in the mogstation too. I have already said that I wouldn't have problems with npc clothing being in the mogstation following the same pattern they already have. But AGAIN, the mindset that just because something is just for looks then it can be sold is not healthy for the future of the game. Allowing such things will probably end up in more and more items in mogstation that could've been in the game through events (and end up there eventually), quests, achievements and so on.
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    Last edited by Melorie; 07-13-2016 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well, I don't know how to break it to you, but the section where you buy stuff from the cash shop is called "Optional Items"... I trust you to know what "Optional" means.
    So, it's ok for you to pay extra for them instead of having SE put them in the game for free? How about you buy some common sense with all that money you insist on throwing at SE.
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