I guess it's time

[Velhart]

I dunno...When you have a thread with numerous people stating they're unsubbing...I don't think the game is in a good state. Not even this thread. The threads about the game's direction are appearing much more frequently in comparison to how they were months or a couple years ago. To say the game is "Perfect" right now falls under the saying, "Ignorance is bliss"

If you let the forum represent everyone in the game, then you are heavily misinformed on how the general population of FFXIV thinks. The amount of players who are actively on the forums is an extremely low percentage. Not to mention, a lot of times the issue you are all preaching to get SE to respond to is from a vocal minority. I am not saying what the community is thinking either. I am just not going on about "this is what everyone thinks"

[Beetle]

What we want SE/Needs fixing,

- Exploring vase zones with danger. (That actually look good, like ARR zones, not like Heavenward zones with lack of detail everywhere)
- Way less Fates and completely different way of leveling in zones. (Make those Fates more special/Huge EXP gain) (Basically big Fate even'ts)
- Branching path dungeons with different objectives and rewards.
- Remove raids and instead add in 8man dungeons that are on pare with raids. (Hard dungeons, not always about hard bosses.)
- New stats, Double attack, Shield Bash+1, Ballad+1 etc.
- Removal of tome cap & requirement for obtaining them for bis/removing the tome system.
- Easier way to set up 24 man group. Even for Fates and other content.
- Start adding actual 24man Guild FC content into the game.
- Readjustments/complete overhall of the Hunt system.
- Add a support class into the game.
- Change all 4man raids to 5man raids. (1tank,1healer,2dps, 1support/dps) (DPS spots fill up faster then tank or healers. Also will allow you guys to create more interesting fights then with just the bare mim 4 party setup.)
- Add no flying in future expansions. But also have the zone designed so ease of traveling around like with the ARR zones. (This will make zones larger because lack of movement speed/allowing creators to make more detailed areas without creating huge zones where graphics has to display a bunch of stuff away from the player.) (Basically more smaller zones, But still make the region quite large.)
- Make every patch a catch up patch & a main patch. (Nerfing old content and adding new bis gear, instead of bis gear every 6 months.)
- Mix old materials & new materials into new recipes, allowing older items to still be useful and making it easier for newer players to make gil on a patch.
- Only release new Dungeons. (No longer create Hard mode dungeons.)
- Make relics require alot of gil/player help to finish. Allow all players to farm currency and able to sell it to players grinding out for relic.
- Make Relics best in slot for every patch till next expansion where they need to do a hard quest to upgrade it again.
- Add no shortcuts to relic, but you can increase the currency that drops.
- Add a item reward system to achievement score for ARR & Heavensward & 4.0. (This will cause more players to do different content in the game to obtain these rewards.)
- Make crafting more useful.
- Change the DoL stat caps/gathering caps. Give us a better benefit for going beyond the requirement for these gathering points.
- Keep the item level requirement for duty finder only but remove the need for having it overall. (Lower item level gear could have better stats for your build.)
- Bring back a way to change your Job/Class within a dungeon like with 1.0 dungeons. (Will cause more players to level more jobs & learn different jobs.)
- Add in awesome Jobs. Samurai, Blue Mage, Thief, Red Mage, Gunblade Job/Garlean Based Class. Make sure the Jobs are fun to play at/really useful in all aspects.
- Fix the mass issue with lots of gil on players. (Make gil more useful.)
- Give everyone there own housing zone and lessen the need for housing wards.
- Make Housing useful, not just as a vanity item.
- Add Open world dungeons/caverns.
- Add no more basic solo quests. Start creating the quests that need Chocobo Companion/Up to 2-3 players.
- Make other cities like Grindana & Uldah easier to reach the market board & retainer bell. (Add Market Boards & Retainer Bells to the same zone as the Aethright to attract traffic to those zones.)
- Remove Grand Company Grouping in frontlines, instead just make it A/B/C groups.
- Allow PvP stat to boost only PvP actions and be able to use them in frontlines.
- Expand the PvP leveling rank system by adding in different stats & traits.
- Add in different Materia & don't lower stat values on gear just because they can attach materia.
- Have a new round/season of the feast to start up again as soon as its over. (Keeping the content from dying out once a feast season is over.)
- Have top Feast equipment to give best item level/on pare with the top sets of the current patch.
- Remove the current raid system you guys have and just focus on primal fights because even the raids themselves are just boss fights.
- Start making the main story fights a bit harder so players learn how to play the game correctly. (Add in a extra mechanic or one attack do the same thing as it does in the extreme version so they are more ready for the extreme version of the fight.)
- Add a new mode of transportation in 4.0. (Boats/Water mount)
- Make sure dungeons from the outside in the world map value to size to the ideal size of the dungeon. Also make sure the dungeon is designed the same way as it looks from the outside.
- Less cash shop stuff like the Red & White magitek mounts and the Red Zu. Add stuff in there that we actually wanna buy/worth the asking price.
- No jump potion/content skip. (If you do add ONE at some point you gotta give it to everyone that owns ARR regardless if they are new or not to raise any one class to 60 only but still have them do all the content in the game for them to reach that lv60 point & not allow them to unsync dungeons so they can solo it by themselves until they complete it once as the required level. Also leave it out of the cash shop or you will ruin this game.)
- Add in new content but only release it when you know its actually complex/dynamic enough where players can enjoy it over and over and do many different things and not have stuff be broken at release.
- Improve old content where they have a purpose/are more enjoyable.
- Improve the Chocobo Companion system where we can Gambit there actions and give them way more skills.
- Allow us to Que for a duty with a chocobo companion.
- Remove the need to build cities every patch, your wasting development having to replace/rebuild every patch.
- Add less seasonal events in a year but improve the events/quests. (New Year/Little Ladies day/Easter/Gold Saucer need to go. Put more dev time in other content/events.)
- Add in a new race that doesn't look like a human. Lizard Race.
- Add in Viera. (A lot of people want it.)
- Add in endgame content related to the main story. (Not a side story quest not really related to the main story.)
- Open World Primals. (All Primals added into the game. Change the weather of the region/zone when they are spawned.)
- Hamlet style content where DoL & DoH can be used in combat/content. (Good replacement for Red scripes)
- Those DoH skills/job stones need be more useful.
- Add more random elements into crafting & fixing the HQ % to where it makes more sense.
- Make Fishing more useful as a DoL. Give more fish a purpose. Don't just keep adding in useless fish.
- Don't add anymore beastmen dallies. We already have too many of the same content. Add something completely new.
- Add in other rewards players will go after instead of minions & mounts. Its getting old.
- Stop copying the same rewards and giving them a new skin/color swaps. (ADS balls, Zu mounts, White Fat chocobo, Beastmen dallies minions etc.)
- Add in a triangle arena and a multi floor arena like what we had in to kill a raven.
- Add in new PvP rules. Like King of the hill.
- Remove the ability to choose frontlines & instead have it like cycle randomly to different arenas so older & newer content never gets stale or dies out.
- Slow down the combat a little bit when your adding in more actions into the game. (Balance the GCD a bit more)
- Magitek Companion/Attachment, usefulness in 5.0.
- Being able to use retainers on the open world.
- Have Airships take you to special endgame areas, with a purpose.
- Frontlines needs to be more dynamic with options on the field.
- Have Brass Seals give armor & used for relic quest line. Also be able to trade them.
- Balance out desysthing where we can level it up without having to buy 500k equips.
- Don't nerf vanity items just because more people want them. There is a market there and if you nerf it noone cares about showing off the $$$ vanity item.
- Make Battle & Grand Company Leves important/more rewarding then what they are. (Players don't use them. Only on DoH & DoL leves. Fates & dungeons are faster exp.)
- Add all rewards at the end of a dungeon. So players don't get the item and leave in a middle of a dungeon.
- Allow players to use large amounts of tokens to buy mounts that drop from primals. (80-100 tokens would be realistic to ask for it.)
- Adding ways toget gil out of the hands of players. Hence adding shops that sell items for a recipe that no other way to obtain.
- Epic storyline/theme with endgame.
- No more Normal mode versions of Endgame.
- Remove sub rewards. (Its getting quite large for new players to meet these requirements and there is no way these players would be able to catch up. Before it was every month to 3 months was fine, but now you need to stay subbed for a year to meet each reward now. Its a joke.)
- Have a option to still play the game till your sub is up without having to cancel it your account on the last day before getting charged for the next month. (Seems shady, didn't have this issue with XI.)
- Make it easier to have steam versions of the game & still be able to use your game or upgrade it to the next expansion without steam needed.
- Add a que for your character if that character wants to move to another server that's full.
- Allow players use multiple kinds of meds without sharing the same global timer. (Able to use HP potions & Dex Potions together) (Able to use High Ethers & Int Potions together)
- Make the market board a blind auction house. (To stop undercutting of prices.)

These are what players have been asking for sometime or have been expecting since 2.0 was being built. Also a lot of balancing issues/need purpose needs to be done.

Can someone find a way to translate & post this on the JP forums.

[Azrael]

The amount of people who post on this forum is less than a tenth of the player base.[/url]

I see this statement coming up often in the forums.
I would like to say that you are not wrong, but not 100% right.
While it's true that a big chunk of active players never post/don't care about the forum, it's also true that a lot of players silently quit without posting on the forums because they just don't care about putting some effort in a discussion because it's just easier to jump in another game.
The only feedback you can get is the posts you get on the forums, and the actual sub count (which nobody here actually knows), and I don't really trust polls since we know most of them can be easily exploited.

[Kerii]

That doesn't really change anything I've said.



People in polls as you said say the game requires "minor improvements". Which calls for the game not being perfect. Call it technicalities if you wish, but it is the truth. You can like the game if you wish and that's fine, but even they agree there are changes that need to be made. Whether minimal or drastic is subjective.

Just so we're clear. Neither me or the poster you were replying to said the game was "perfect". You made that assumption.

I see this statement coming up often in the forums.
I would like to say that you are not wrong, but not 100% right.
While it's true that a big chunk of active players never post/don't care about the forum, it's also true that a lot of players silently quit without posting on the forums because they just don't care about putting some effort in a discussion because it's just easier to jump in another game.
The only feedback you can get is the posts you get on the forums, and the actual sub count (which nobody here actually knows), and I don't really trust polls since we know most of them can be easily exploited.

Anything dealing with statistics or collecting data should be taken with a grain of salt. However, the poll I've linked is comparable to the number of likes that this thread's OP received. Loosely speaking 100 people feel that the OP's view is reflective of how the game really is. We have no "dislike" button, so this creates a one sided discussion. The poll has biased options which was mentioned both on reddit and on the forum thread. Take it with a grain of salt, as I said. On the other hand, more than 500 of the 684 voters don't seem to lean towards the idea that the game is in need of a drastic overhaul. Which is precisely what I wanted to point out.

[Lorielle]

If you let the forum represent everyone in the game, then you are heavily misinformed on how the general population of FFXIV thinks. The amount of players who are actively on the forums is an extremely low percentage. Not to mention, a lot of times the issue you are all preaching to get SE to respond to is from a vocal minority. I am not saying what the community is thinking either. I am just not going on about "this is what everyone thinks"

I feel like this post was rather unnecessary. The forum is a place where active players come to speak(if they care to) about X matters. X active players stating(in a passionate way) that they are unsubbing is still a loss no matter how you slice it. No one is saying they represent the general overall populace. But then you also have people that just quit or stop logging in. I'm at that point myself where my sub will just die and that's it. I only logged in for raids and even that is pretty much broken now due to how unrewarding it feels. I don't know active sub numbers. You don't know active sub numbers. But I'm sure we can both agree it's not even close to how things were in the past. If that's not an indication of things going south, I don't know what to tell you.

And what's wrong with some communication to your playerbase? I don't really approve of the "language barrier" thing when you're in the field of MMO. It's one of those things you should prepare for. A translator. Someone on the team that speaks X language as well. Perhaps that's just my way of thinking though. Some suggestions. Good. Bad. Whatever. Someone -at the very least- could say "We'll look into it" but there's not even that sadly. As I mentioned, I'm not even asking for them to do that for every topic. It just helps your player base know that they're not being ignored.

[Azrael]

Take it with a grain of salt, as I said. On the other hand, more than 500 of the 684 voters don't seem to lean towards the idea that the game is in need of a drastic overhaul. Which is precisely what I wanted to point out.

Where are those 500 people I would like to ask, that's why I'm suspicious. They read the forum so much that they even go cast a vote on a foreign website, but don't care about making a post to say how much they love the game?
I know we don't have a dislike button and I always wondered why, but at least the likes can't be faked by IP resets or some other thing which only 1 person could do by himself. I didn't vote in that poll for example, because I really don't trust the results.
I remember we also had a recent poll on which one was the best MMORPG on some website in which most games were banned from it because people were faking the results, that's what I'm talking about.
Until we get some kind of poll where people can cast only 1 vote (being account bound) there is really no reason to publish those results as if they speak for the truth.

[Lorielle]

Just so we're clear. Neither me or the poster you were replying to said the game was "perfect". You made that assumption.

When I am given material to work with to make such an assumption, you can expect that. Typically when saying the game is "Fine the way it is and doesn't need changes" usually equals out to it being "Perfect". You may not have said that, but there was a reason why I said what I said.

[Kerii]

Where are those 500 people I would like to ask, that's why I'm suspicious.
I know we don't have a dislike button and I always wondered why, but at least the likes can't be faked by IP resets are some other thing which only 1 person could do by himself. I didn't vote in that poll for example, because I really don't trust the results.
I remember we also had a recent poll on which one was the best MMORPG on some website in which most games were banned from it because people were faking the results, that's what I'm talking about.
Until we get some kind of poll where people can cast only 1 vote (being account bound) there is really no reason to publish those results as if they speak for the truth.

You're yelling and screaming at the wrong person. Try making a thread directed at the community reps and see what happens. Anything that isn't administrated or moderated by SE is going to be subject to a number of problems.

[Velhart]

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I never said you can't express your opinion and concerns to them. I said don't believe you and some other people represent everyone. Yes, I have heard in here plenty of times like "everyone in the game is sick of" or "the game is dying/doomed!". Its assumptions that people cannot back up and some let their own personal experience represent how the entire game is holding up. Then again, every MMO forum has things like "the game is declining" and things like that. This type of stuff is not new.

[Azrael]

You're yelling and screaming at the wrong person. Try making a thread directed at the community reps and see what happens. Anything that isn't administrated or moderated by SE is going to be subject to a number of problems.

I was just saying that you can't go around and say "majority" said the game is fine as it is when the poll is easily exploitable, it's just false and that's why you got that answer, that poll proves nothing.
I don't care if they put a dislike button in the forum or not tbh, people can just make a post here if they got something to say.