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    Cakekizyy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Normalizer View Post
    If they were a tank or healer without the basic of their class, with no response when asked, i'm pretty sure not many will have 2nd thought before clicking the vote kick button. So, why it's be a different in this case, just because the healer/tank and the other dps can carry the last dps? It's a low level dungeon so it might not be that much serious, but think about the case it is a much harder dungeon (eg. Vault, Aurum Vale, etc.), one dps like that would cause wipe after wipe. I would really consider vote kick:



    And yes they are legal reason for a vote kick.
    But he's not refusing to fulfill his role. Just not doing to someone's standards isn't a valid reason to kick as I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    But he's not refusing to fulfill his role. Just not doing to someone's standards isn't a valid reason to kick as I see it.
    It's going both ways apparently with the majority in the group being able to decide.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...il&sh=8a2a32d4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    But he's not refusing to fulfill his role. Just not doing to someone's standards isn't a valid reason to kick as I see it.
    I will just quote this cause some are obviously selective reading too much:

    Quote Originally Posted by ArikDimas View Post
    The blm was level 50, had 15 arc to unlock blm, and had leveled acn as well, if the black mage was truly new as the ast claimed, they were using some other persons account. Also as I said, they were not even trying to communicate back, their performance was intentional.
    And to requote myself: "without the basic of their class", "with no response when asked", "wipe after wipe".

    And I will tell it again, if it wasn't clear for you, this vote is not for "not doing to someone's standards", it's for "no communication, bot-like behavior, refusing of doing basic rotation or try to improvement even after getting advice from other, causing the group multiple wipes or really just afk follow".

    Edit: Also the question of if a reason for vote kick is valid or not is rather dumb, you can kick a person for any reason. Better question should be: if the vote kick worth it, would it be an abused kick, could thing have been better with or without the vote kick. IMO those are more meaningful question.
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    Last edited by Normalizer; 07-05-2016 at 06:12 AM.