Players Who Don't pull their weight.

[ArikDimas]

I didn't think the player was a bot at all, but why is it vote kick abuse and not harassment if someone is purposefully playing their job wrong and refuses to even acknowledge someone trying to help them?

[Khalithar]

I didn't think the player was a bot at all, but why is it vote kick abuse and not harassment if someone is purposefully playing their job wrong and refuses to even acknowledge someone trying to help them?

Because there are players in the community that legitimately believe their 15 dollars is worth more than the 45 dollars of the rest of their party and they should be permitted to play however they want and no one has the right to tell them otherwise.

[Larkspur]

I didn't think the player was a bot at all, but why is it vote kick abuse and not harassment if someone is purposefully playing their job wrong and refuses to even acknowledge someone trying to help them?

In your case, the player was not intentionally doing it to spite you if the AST spoke up.

For example, for someone else. Me preferring not to dps in cleric stance and just continuing to heal: It could be viewed to someone else as "purposefully" playing my job wrong.

Should I be vote kicked for that? Am I purposefully harassing another player for not dpsing in cleric stance?

[RLofOBFL]

Should I be vote kicked for that? Am I purposefully harassing another player for not dpsing in cleric stance?

Here is how I see it. If you're a healer or a tank & you can successfully fulfill your duty than despite how I may feel at you being a tad lazy, at least you're able to do your job so I'm satisfied ie: tank keeping aggro, healing healing people.


How would you feel if a tank stopped trying to keep aggro or a healer just stood there & didn't heal more than the mobs could do so you died? I think it's unfair that DPS are exempt from playing at least with a basic rotation. I don't expect perfection but I do expect a level 50/60 job to be able to do more damage than a tank stance tank, is that so wrong? To want dps to dps, just like anyone would want healers to heal & tanks to keep aggro? You'd HAVE to kick a healer that didn't heal enough bc you wouldn't be able to progress the dungeon, isn't it the same for dps, at least for things with dps checks such as sohr's second boss(soft, I've actually had to heal this before, it was intense) & A8 normal(hard)?


Although I personally don't start a vote kick unless someone is extremely rude or DCd, I would have to say yes if someone else did bc someone really didn't know their job & the tank outdid them, especially if they refused advice. It shouldn't be a stranger in DF's job to tell you how to play, go fight the Midas normal SSS dummy & see if you can win. Can't? Try some new combos. Still can't? Google a guide, there are hundreds of them. No need to waste everyone's limited living time in making a 20 min dungeon 45 minutes, at least do it to be considerate of other people, just like you'd want people to be considerate of you. Not to mention it would null chances of the real elitists to treat you like dirt and berate & troll/kick you for not being able to play.