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    Player
    Kaeoni's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Ein Sakuragi
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Normalizer View Post
    With enough numbers of run the rank will go nearer to your accurate rank, it is not a fixed number. So, if you have lag in EVERY runs you did, or if you have to change babies diaper EVERY runs, or if you play like a total newbies EVERY runs, then yes, you deserve to have a lower rank.
    Even if that were true man. Well I mean it is. I still don't believe in it. It's not like I want to let people get carried, or want people to think they can... If i had it my way everyone would be halfway decent... And for the record, since 2.0 I've never come across these people that people are claiming only auto attack, or can't do a 1-2-3 Combo. I'm not saying it's impossible... But I don't think it's such a huge problem that we need to make an entire ranking system to Separate our community... It says some real bad shit about our society if we need that, and that we're okay with that... Especially if other servers are just fine? So instead of trying to change? We just... Use force... I don't think i could play a game that uses force on it's community... I don't think people should willingly give into these types of constructs. I think we should evolve societally. When I think of Force I think of Leaders in history who have done corrupt and unforgivable acts and atrocities in the name of something "good"... I'm not a bad player. But I have other games I can play, and this type of thing would be a game killer for me. I don't need to be assigned a rank to tell me or understand how good I am or anyone else is... Morally I just don't believe in marginalization of a people period...
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    Last edited by Kaeoni; 07-04-2016 at 04:01 PM.

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    Normalizer's Avatar
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    Esmond Rainer
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeoni View Post
    But I don't think it's such a huge problem that we need to make an entire ranking system to Separate our community... It says some real bad shit about our society if we need that, and that we're okay with that... Especially if other servers are just fine?
    Things mostly happens on NA/EU server (?):
    - Ppl leave right at beginning of Final step of faith (niddy story), cause we not gonna clear it on DF! (I even saw PF for it)
    - Ppl leave right at beginning of Aurum Vale (cause who gonna spend 50mins for a dungeon while penalty only 30mins)
    - Ppl spam vote abadon right after 1 or 2 wipes in 24man, or keep wiping at 1st boss
    - Primals Ex on DF when still relevant: near 0% chance to clear or never pop (and lot of people queued with the mind set: "I'm going in blind cause it's fun, don't ruin it for me, I will ignore all your writing about tacts and figure it out myself")
    - Ice mage
    - Jumping healers (who jumps all around casting cure or spamming medica 2 once awhile while everyone is 99%)
    - Medica 2 whm

    The list goes on and on... but that is never a real problem cause everyone is having fun And things will be nerfed eventually.
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    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Character
    Fina Sela'dor
    World
    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Normalizer View Post
    Things mostly happens on NA/EU server (?):
    - Ppl leave right at beginning of Final step of faith (niddy story), cause we not gonna clear it on DF! (I even saw PF for it)
    - Ppl leave right at beginning of Aurum Vale (cause who gonna spend 50mins for a dungeon while penalty only 30mins)
    - Ppl spam vote abadon right after 1 or 2 wipes in 24man, or keep wiping at 1st boss
    - Primals Ex on DF when still relevant: near 0% chance to clear or never pop (and lot of people queued with the mind set: "I'm going in blind cause it's fun, don't ruin it for me, I will ignore all your writing about tacts and figure it out myself")
    - Ice mage
    - Jumping healers (who jumps all around casting cure or spamming medica 2 once awhile while everyone is 99%)
    - Medica 2 whm
    Most of these things I have never seen in my server (Oceanic server).
    -I've never seen anyone leave at the beginning of Final Step of Faith OR the original Steps of Faith. (only heard someone complain ONCE)
    -Never seen anyone leave at the beginning of Aurum Vale.
    -Only seen a Vote Abandon once, after 4 deaths to Ozma. The first time it didn't pass. It passed after the 5th wipe.
    -Pretty much everyone previews the gimmicks of the fight before entering. I've only met one person who said it is more fun not to do so.
    -I've only seen one ice mage ever, and they were not a Japanese (a different server on the same data center.)
    -Only people I've seen spam Medica II were not a Japanese (a different server on the same data center.)

    Having a grading system isn't going to change people's behavior. People will still just do whatever they want because they want to do as they like, with little respect for others in the group.

    Failure to consider the other group members, have effective communication, strategy, and cooperation is the reason why people don't clear content.

    More or less, I think it comes down to a difference in culture. A grading system probably won't change that.
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