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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    I don't see how it can be seen as such. Unless it automatically gives you Binding Coil, Alexander Savage and EX Primal gear/weapons/clears, then... what are you winning?
    Fron my experience with MMOs (limited primarily to this game and hearsay about XI), The very opportunity to play/clear content is itself a reward for clearing other content. In which case getting as far as assessing Coil and Alexander from day one would be seen as P2W, (Also there is also the fact that Dusk Vigil is tuned to around i110, the very same ilevel as 2nd Coil)
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Fron my experience with MMOs (limited primarily to this game and hearsay about XI), The very opportunity to play/clear content is itself a reward for clearing other content. In which case getting as far as assessing Coil and Alexander from day one would be seen as P2W, (Also there is also the fact that Dusk Vigil is tuned to around i110, the very same ilevel as 2nd Coil)
    This is where I find P2W very subjective. My definition has been people being able to use real world money to gain an advantage over others. Skipping the story doesn't mean you'll be able to clear any content without learning how to play your job, thus I don't feel a jump potion is P2W. Now if SE added say, Beast Tribe token bundles to the MogStation so people could skip the Anima grind. That's when you start crossing murky waters imo.
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