Possible level/story jumps....really?

[Mwynn]

Did anyone ever thought about the Players who "Completed" the entire Story?
Is there a benefit for us if New Players are able to skip the entire Story or jump through levels?

If there is a Level / Story Skip Potion, then I as a ARR Player, want to be rewarded for completing the Story and gaining my levels.
Simple Truth, it causes more frustration distributed over the entire Community.

You also have to think, cutting out Content means less things to do for Players, which means, they either continue or they get bored and won't subscripe anymore.

What's next... a Potion to skip Heavensward Relic? A Potion to skip Savage? Seriously, this is so wrong...

[SendohJin]

Did anyone ever thought about the Players who "Completed" the entire Story?
Is there a benefit for us if New Players are able to skip the entire Story or jump through levels?

yes, you'd have more people to play with.

If there is a Level / Story Skip Potion, then I as a ARR Player, want to be rewarded for completing the Story and gaining my levels.

there is, you've been playing the content after it the whole time since.

You also have to think, cutting out Content means less things to do for Players, which means, they either continue or they get bored and won't subscripe anymore.

if the content isn't fun for them since they feel so far behind they'll get bored and won't subscribe anyway. you're going to lose people either way. people who are not interested in the Lv 60 content will never be long term subscribers anyway.

[Mwynn]

Blubb

More "Lazy" People I'd assume.

That's not really a Reward at all, that's a direct hit in the Face.

That's the Logic isn't it?

[SendohJin]

More "Lazy" People I'd assume.

Don't make assumptions of people you don't know, it just makes you presumptuous.

That's not really a Reward at all, that's a direct hit in the Face.

are you saying you're not higher iLv than someone who would get a jump potion tomorrow?

[Mwynn]

Blubb...

People that use "SKIP XYZ Potion" are Lazy, and that is a Fact.

Now another Question. What exactly Advantage would bring you a Potion in your case, SendohJin?

[SendohJin]

many people i play with skip cutscenes anyway. i don't do FATEs, i would do dungeons with them till they get to 60 and craft them gear so they can start learning to do Nid EX and Savage.

most of them are experienced gamers that like to get loot for the sake of getting loot. doing the story doesn't make them understand the Lore grind, you actually have to get them into the Lore grind to know if they'll stick around for it and i'd rather they do it a week after they get the game than a month after.

[Voltyblast]

To be fair, even WoW before WoD expansion required you to go through the leveling process of 1-80 before you could get to the new content. FFXIV is the same, except that leveling process is through the MSQ. It's atrociously longer (and much more tedious if story isn't your cup to tea to begin with) when the MSQ process mostly devolves to fetch quests, and double that with post 2.0 MSQ being a requirement as well, so it's not just the leveling but the story progression as well (which...includes the aforementioned fetch quests).

Levels are fine, that's quite a normal lock to have: it's like when they introduced death knights in WoW back then and you were required to have at least a 55 class before making one, but that's a reasonable requirement.

But for entering HW you're still required to complete dozens upon dozens of quests, and only a few of them are really necessary or any interesting, and this is quite an old arguement too, even before the expansion came out (heck, my friend even got harassed for this while in-game). If the MSQ was shorter and more streamlined (like, it takes only a few hours to complete), then it would be "better" than what we have now. A friend of mine recently finished her MSQ a couple of months ago and she really got bored of doing it (she got more fun checking the plotholes and the inconsistencies of the story).

So while they are theorically the same, the additional MSQ after 50 is the real culprit here as it gives an additional lock alongside your level, without mentioning that you're also unable to obtain those new jobs that the HW trailers made sure to look forward to. Quite the bait if I have to say so myself. And no, I have the retail copy with me right beside me, nothing is mentioned about a story lock. A new player buying this would have an unexpected surprise when reaching 50 for the first time.

And again, since they're "planning" a potion to skip this specific part of the game, there is some concern about it: if they saw no issues with it, we wouldn't be here talking about it and probably even got a story lock for 3.0.

[Fumbi]

You literally have to beat Realm Reborn to touch HW, even then, you have a bunch of potatoe quest afterwards you have to do before once again you can touch HW. Mind you I'm a big Final fantasy fan and the story is great but I feel like they gave too much "filler" in the end before the actual start of the quest.

[bass9020]

You literally have to beat Realm Reborn to touch HW, even then, you have a bunch of potatoe quest afterwards you have to do before once again you can touch HW. Mind you I'm a big Final fantasy fan and the story is great but I feel like they gave too much "filler" in the end before the actual start of the quest.

3.1-3.3 is nothing like 2.1-2.5 so they learned to keep fetch quests mostly out. And I'm sure 4.0 will be no different.

[ADVSS]

3.1-3.3 is nothing like 2.1-2.5 so they learned to keep fetch quests mostly out. And I'm sure 4.0 will be no different.

ugh if new main story becomes like how job quests are now there really wont be much msq "welp im locked for 2 levels in story better go grind some FATES"