Possible level/story jumps....really?

[Istaru]

I'll just say this: enabling players to straight out skip levels is the start of a very bad path. Nothing the devs have said earlier have actually frightened me, but this does. I really do not like this direction they're considering.

I couldn't agree more.

[vp_cmc]

Story driven game

Can someone explain what does it mean (if it's not just by definition)? I suppose story driven game means that doing story (and reading those text) somehow influences your gameplay. For example hints about how to beat the enemy, or hints about how to get better gear. Here you can skip all dialogs and cutscenes and just follow arrows and be completely fine.

Someone may say, that story answers me why I fight some specific enemy? So, why I fought rafflesia in t6? But I know! Because it had treasure chests with loot and some tomes, and it has nothing with the story.

[Kallera]

is this how people argue for pay to win? because it really sounds like it. I'd rather say no now than have people argue that "we already have pay 2 win tho" to excuse boosting to just under raid gear with the 14.99 deal.

[Savagelf]

I strongly disagree allow players to skip ahead. here is another thing i use Warcraft as arguement and there a lot good reason to do it only other games that has this feature that triple aaa class. here another reason if players who push for this is players that will leave and go play Warcraft legion for example why tried please them. first off ffxiv strength is it story this basic stable yourself in your foots by devs team say i know are strength is story drive contents but we just want hurt are self by skip it. My suggest Yoshi P would hold off to see when legion drop will push for this vanish. What i believe that those push this are are Warcraft player base as soon legion is release they will return to it. see the other things is those push are more concern about end game then about story element of games. what dev in other mmo company need learn is to put they foot down and just say know to the warcraft player base when they make demand like this.

[Remus]

things about story and WoW legion

Good joke because i'm not going to play WoW Legion so your argument just went out the window. Also most people I have asked for this option say they don't care if its added and I told them but the DF would get worse and they all gave the same answer "majority of DF is bad most people just don't know it" and they are not playing WoW legion before making straw man arguments please think about it a bit more instead of throwing the WoW card. People keep saying this game is story driven that is understandable but the sad fact is majority don't really care for the story I know way too many people that just skip the story to get their dungeon/trial.

I said it earlier why do you think they moved the dungeon earlier in the MSQ now because people complained they had to go through the whole story to get it when they don't care about it. Why do you think there is no trial in Hildebrand? People didn't want to do that story for their trials roulette so they made it not required. The sad truth is majority of people don't play a MMORPG for a super story driven game if people wanted that they could play a single player game.


In a MMORPG I am looking for end-game content something that will last. Story doesn't last i only do that once and never again so there isn't much point in investing so much into it. Look at Heavensward the 50-60 story was great but they invested too much into that part and the end-game was lacking badly and 3.1 came and it was even worse.

People keep saying pay to win but not realize that there is already a pay to win mechanic in the game of buying retainers but some reason people don't mention that? If you know how to use retainers properly it can give you a huge advantage against someone who only has 2. If you don't want this then get rid of extra retainers because that is pay to win. If people want to skip the story that's their choice and im not sure why people are so afraid or might quit because if you quit due to this i'm sorry but your just a fool for leaving for something as small as this to get new players in the game which this game really needs.

New players keep MMOs alive and if the game isn't getting new players the game is slowly dying. If this is one of the ways without impacting their development cycle too much and waste time going back and changing quests I will take it. People have said those that want to be good will go out of their way to research those that want to be bad will always be bad no matter what.

I can understand both sides of the argument but sadly the side with not having the potion keeps giving the same reason or no reason and the side who want the potion are giving more reasons for it. Honestly when I read some of these relies im starting to believe people forget this is a MMORPG where people want to do fun endgame content not read a visual novel.

[Bloodb]

I believe this may be a move to create a game that caters to everyone. Everyone has a beginning either in ul'dah, limsa lominsa, or gridania, and at level 1. If your only desire is end game raiding with friends there's nothing stopping you. Raiding gives you gear, gear makes you stronger. So does leveling though.

I'm going to stir up some trouble undoubtedly by saying maybe the instant-gratification WOW kiddies should play action games. Seriously, if 4.0 and on is designed to be more accessible than what happened with 2.0 and 3.0 whats the problem??

[Warlyx]

HW quest all award HQ gear , since the quests are one time only i see no issues with that , your 1 alt ? i guess u have some gil to buy some gear (npc or MB) , dungeons are a option too

[Cakekizyy]

HW quest all award HQ gear , since the quests are one time only i see no issues with that , your 1 alt ? i guess u have some gil to buy some gear (npc or MB) , dungeons are a option too

The quests rotate through different sets. You could fully gear 2-3 jobs.

[Savagelf]

sir you don't know what you talk about hilbrads we just 3 quest in so are they going trials who knows they might be. there where trials in orignals and you have doing orignals to do news ones.

in orignals hildbrad they had 4 quest leads in with no trials. then trials came laters


they going be trial wether you like or not they will be trials.

[Zadocfish]

You know what? I've switched sides on this issue. I'm trying to be a lvl 50 SCH now, and will be going for WAR after that.

Fuck it, I want a leveling potion. Maybe make me do the "every 5 level" missions separately or something so I still get the job story, but getting a job to lvl 50 after you've already got one to 50 doing the main story is SO FUCKING BORING. And, it is 100% unadulterated busywork, no thought or skill involved, just doing the same thing 500 times... And you're not going to have your final skill set/rotation until lvl 50 anyways, so the training you get getting up to that level is way less relevant than it looks! So, yeah, let us have leveling potions after getting to lvl 50 in at least one job... because leveling extra classes in this game is fucking unbearable.