I guess it's time

[Vespar]

This is where your post lost all sense of credibility.

Well I was watching this post out of boredom, like many other posts Ive given up on it.

The OP (like myself and others) generally wants to see the game get better. Even if he doesnt know how to make it better, but all this community ever does is ridicule the OP, then ridicule the people making valid on topic responses.
This guy has valid points. Yes there is a lot of content in this game. But he's saying that its no longer fun because of various reasons that I have seen countless other users bring up as well.

So clearly there is an expectation or issue that many players feel needs to be addressed for them to want to continue subbing. This is a legitimate issue, or FFXIV could end up another failed MMO, because it didnt address the warning signs.
Please stop derailing feedback threads with useless statements about a user's credibility, or calling them a whiner just because they dont find enjoyment in X,Y,Z content that you have more time or energy to throw yourself into.

[Jetstream_Fox]

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Ok stop right there, in no way was I derailing a feedback thread, I was pointing out to the person I was quoting that nothing in this game is handed to anyone, that you must work for all the rewards with each content release. The OP I quoted stated FF14 is being designed for instant gratification players rather not the so called hardcore MMO players. So please next time read the post before you attempt to tell someone something rather than jumping to a mindless conclusion.

There is a lack of overall content throughout the game.
There are many QoL adjustments that SE hasn't attempted to correct.
Many things talked about like new summon egis, GC ranks, expanded inventory and Odin summon never see the day of light and get pushed back to a pending release date.
Many of the side content like diadem and gold saucer die almost immediately after release due to lack of support
Zero communication between the dev team and the player base
And highly evident short money flow and staffing power also hindering the game.

But please tell me how this game is being designed for instant gratification type players please tell me what npc I can go talk to and get my 240 relic done right now, please tell me what quest I can do to get all 240 armor on completion, and what npc I can speak to so I can earn unlimited gil. Don't worry, I'll wait.

[Reiryuu]

There is a lack of overall content throughout the game.
There are many QoL adjustments that SE hasn't attempted to correct.
Many things talked about like new summon egis, GC ranks, expanded inventory and Odin summon never see the day of light and get pushed back to a pending release date.
Many of the side content like diadem and gold saucer die almost immediately after release due to lack of support
Zero communication between the dev team and the player base
And highly evident short money flow and staffing power also hindering the game.

1. To be fair, there is a ton of content in the game. While I would like more in the areas that I partake in, I acknowledge that some content just does not interest me and I choose not to partake in it. That does not mean that it isn't there though.

2. To be sure, but there are also a ton of other things they are working on and not all "QOL adjustments" mentioned in the forums are things that all people want.


3. They have already addressed their reasons for not having more egis whether you agree with them or not. The new glammers are due out next patch, I think actually... I forgot. It was mentioned in a recent live letter.

4. They are aware of the Diadem's failure and have plans to fix it. Next patch is supposed to be a big update for it.

5. Umm.. what? The devs have live letters every month telling us what's coming in future patches. That, by definition, is communication. The community team does an awesome job getting concerns, feedback and ideas through. But not all ideas on the forums here are good ideas. I don't envy their job of having to sort through it all. Yoshi P has mentioned several times that they monitor the forums and look for feedback.

6. I'm sure any company working on an MMO could use more money and more staff. OK, except maybe Blizzard which seems to have money to burn on film making now.

[Kaurie]

5. Umm.. what? The devs have live letters every month telling us what's coming in future patches. That, by definition, is communication. The community team does an awesome job getting concerns, feedback and ideas through. But not all ideas on the forums here are good ideas. I don't envy their job of having to sort through it all. Yoshi P has mentioned several times that they monitor the forums and look for feedback.

They do a lot of communication this way for sure, but the communication from devs to playerbase seems to pale in comparison to other games I've played. Here, I find most hot topics are largely ignored, or if they do address them they give a sort-of 1-off answer. Whereas in WoW, Wildstar, Guild Wars 2 etc., the devs will actively discuss these topics with the players. I have a feeling a large part of it is due to the language difference / this being from a Japanese developer.

[NaesakiAshwell]

They do a lot of communication this way for sure, but the communication from devs to playerbase seems to pale in comparison to other games I've played.

They do communicate with us but in terms of the english audience they only seem to care what Balmung wants. :P :l

[Jetstream_Fox]

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1. There isn't enough content, I seriously don't know where people keep getting this, each patch cycle isn't keeping people around for the 3 month span as it did in 2.0. Don't even tell new to level up a side job, grab all the minions, cards, or level a craft, because that's not new content, that's running existing content because there is nothing else. When you're 2 weeks into a patch and the content is already dried up, that either means A your content isn't diverse enough or B you're not putting out enough.

2. There are a ton of QoL updates that have come off the forum, obviously not everyone wants the same thing, but when people cry about nothing having a glamour book, better fc functions, joining dungeons with birds out, or the fact when you do a hefty amount of GC turnins the game has the need to spam the completion sound effect. And SE isn't attempting to fix these things and they been out here since 2.0, it's apparent they have a lack a interest, but hey let's add that RP icon instead.

3. I don't really care about Egis since I don't play SMN or SCH to bother, was again merely making a point about something that was asked for a very lengthy amount of time and they kept sweeping it under the rug.

4. It's not just the Diadem they left die, how about ALL of the Gold Saucer content that has failed? LoV and TT have gone no where fast, what about Chocobo racing, where are the updates to that? One update to "fix" the Diadem issue isn't going to fix the fact Diadem NEEDS to be updated EVERY patch just like Palace of the Dead will need to be as well.

5. Live letters every month and you think that's good enough? That's like getting a news letter from your job, but then your bosses don't tell you anything other than "Please look forward to it!" Where are the community polls? Where are the community managers in game hyping up content? Go look at Blizzard, not just WoW but the entirety that is Blizzard, their community managers are active and even do play dates. This game can and deserves a lot better than what we get.

6. FF14 dev team should be the biggest and strongest department at SE. I mean this is the only successful new MMO out on the market currently, and it's not like they only profited about 1.4 billion last year. Looks like they have as decent amount there to back up one of their few successful game teams with some extra help.

[ADVSS]

2. There are a ton of QoL updates that have come off the forum, obviously not everyone wants the same thing, but when people cry about nothing having a glamour book, better fc functions, joining dungeons with birds out, or the fact when you do a hefty amount of GC turnins the game has the need to spam the completion sound effect. And SE isn't attempting to fix these things and they been out here since 2.0, it's apparent they have a lack a interest, but hey let's add that RP icon instead.

you remember how annoying it was to buy cordials with seals? we waited for what,3 years to have that interface work like buying from a materials vendor