I guess it's time

[RLofOBFL]

There is technically pretty much endless content but it gets to a point where you'd rather slam your head into a wall than do the "content". Levelling all jobs for example is fun, but getting 10 50 relics(I have 2 Zeta) & 13 60 relics(I have 2 at 230)? That isn't fun, that is torture. Grade 9 pedigree Chocobo? I got to grade 4 during the MGP event & it had to one of the least fun I've ever had w/ FF14, however I wanted that 50% boost. Companion to 20? Why. I got to 10 before all my jobs got to 60. There is no longer any good reason to level my companion. It gets to a point where you would rather play something fun(or slam your face into a wall) than torture yourself like a completionist. Ofc if you find it fun, that's great but a majority doesn't. It boils down to capping lore weekly doing 2 dungeons or if you raid(maybe 5-10% of the pop) you get to run the same 4 10 min raids every week for 7 months for gear that will be near useless every 7 months.

[Iromi]

I'm with you OP. Been here since 1.0 and I think I am finally truly bored of the game and realizing it's not going to become what I had hoped for. Ive done nearly everything and I think Yoshidas statement on the interesting stats was the final straw for me. Not getting new egis as promised was pretty bad...but I stuck around because we were told we'd get our stats back.

Noooope. Well...i don't hate the game, it's just too much false promises and same formula over and over

Nothing is going to change and I find myself also logging in, doing moogle dailies then standing around my fc house. I'm tired of this same formula and with nothing to look forward to there is really no point any more

[KeluBehemoth]

TL;DR but I get the gist of it. Ive burnt out too for the same reasons.

Simple answer.

Remove the Tomestone caps, reduce the cost of items. Remove the lockouts. Everyone argues tooth and nail that without lock-outs content would be dead in two weeks. That is a blatant lie. All that it would do is encourage people to play different jobs, and play more, bettering the community as a whole (60 min wait times for tanks in levelling roulette? kthx).

Lets be realistic. They DO have the capability to release more content. Why not release two (actual raids) and more HORIZONTAL gear sets? Its still a grind but hey.. ITS A BIT MORE FUN.

Unfortunately, this isnt a game for hard-core MMO players. Its a game for casuals. Its a new generation of gamers who want instant gratification in everything and want to put in no effort.

This is why we, the few, get this homogenized hamster wheel of content. Sure we're getting things like deep dungeon but honestly, I dont have my hopes up. I had my hopes up for Diadem, it was a disaster, I had my hopes up for hunts, its a disaster.


Since Coil, I havent raided. I absolutely hate Alex. I hate normal mode raids. The only thing that interests me is Primals. I hate this "everyone is equal" crap... you dont need the best gear in the game if you're not raiding. I hate the hand holding. I hate how they encourage bad players to continue being bad. I hate that this game has the lowest skilled players of any MMORPG I have EVER played.

I hate that this game is "trying" to copy WoW but can't even get it right (At least WoW had weapons with special effects like Thunderfury, War Gliaves, Shadowmourne).

But other than that. Its a Final Fantasy game and its online, so I love it. I love the little references from all the other games, I love the graphics and unfortunately the glamour. I love the combat system and the rotations.



To boot, I hate that everything about this is presented and made as a casual game, yet if you miss a single roulette or a week of tomes you're completely f****d and behind every other person in the game indefinitely.

I hate "catch up" patches that turn your hard work into nothing. Making it pointless to have spent that insane amount of time to begin with.

I hate new gear being released every few months, making my efforts pointless. (Horizontal progression PLEASE)



Like... Its hard to admit. I absolutely HATED the level grind in FFXI but I mean... once you got there, it was worth it. From here, its a straight grind from 1-60-i240


Heres another point...

Why the HELL cant I solo Twintania? Like seriously. WHY? Oh right. Insta-kill mechanics... and... I take too much damage, cant put out enough or self heal enough.. Like half the fun of a new expansion is going and facerolling everything in the previous expansion and people are STILL DYING TO TWIN AND NAEL! Thats dead content save for a few glamours and money for crafters... but hey guys... lets wait 60mins in cue for crystal tower because we CANT undersize it. Kthxbai.

I mean.. come on. I can't even Faceroll wanderers palace solo. (Maybe as a WAR).

But guys... at least... we got materia. We got materia

We got materia slots to add materia with the same stats our gear already has, that has LOWER OVERALL STATS than previous gear that didnt have materia!

So like.. HEY GUYS I HURD U LIEK MATERIA SO WE TOOK STATS OFF UR GEAR SO U CAN SPEND GIL TO PUT STATS ON YUR GEAR

[Dorander]

There is technically pretty much endless content but it gets to a point where you'd rather slam your head into a wall than do the "content". Levelling all jobs for example is fun, but getting 10 50 relics(I have 2 Zeta) & 13 60 relics(I have 2 at 230)? That isn't fun, that is torture. Grade 9 pedigree Chocobo? I got to grade 4 during the MGP event & it had to one of the least fun I've ever had w/ FF14, however I wanted that 50% boost. Companion to 20? Why. I got to 10 before all my jobs got to 60. There is no longer any good reason to level my companion. It gets to a point where you would rather play something fun(or slam your face into a wall) than torture yourself like a completionist. Ofc if you find it fun, that's great but a majority doesn't. It boils down to capping lore weekly doing 2 dungeons or if you raid(maybe 5-10% of the pop) you get to run the same 4 10 min raids every week for 7 months for gear that will be near useless every 7 months.

I finished 4 level 50 relics before heavensward came out (PLD, MNK, NIN, and DRG) and have finished 3 (BRD, SMN, and BLM) more since. Along with starting WHM (which is at the Atma stage) As for the level 60 relics, I have 2 hyperconductives (NIN and DRG) and working on a third (MCH) up to that level.

Never once did I feel like I was smashing my face into a wall. It was just something else I added to my dailies. The unidentified items are stupidly easy to to get since everything you do daily wise gives you the means to get them. Especially if you do the beast tribe dailies. If you play efficiently, you can also use the heavensward ones to level any battle job from 50 - 60 in no time. The aether oils are handed to you each week if you just do crystal tower. Not hard, no head banging, just invest the time and be efficient.

I also have a grade 9 chocobo that I did back when the Gold Saucer first came in. While doing dailies back during the 2.xx series. Just for funzies, I've started on a second line of birds from scratch, just so I can breed the two 9s later and have a super bird. If by all means you don't enjoy these things and find them torturous, go find a game that you do enjoy. This one, and it sounds like MMOs in general, is not for you.

However, don't claim you have an insight into what the majority wants. At best you can glean what the vocal minority wants just from looking at these forums. Honestly the formula that you all seem to want changed isn't with the game, it's with how you play it. Learn to be efficient. Use your time wisely instead of standing around twiddling your fingers. That's how to maximize the fun on an MMO. Also, Never expect anything to ever be the best for long. It's always going to be a treadmill. Last year at this time, Dreadwyrm, Ironworks, and Zetas were the endgame gear. Ilevel 130 - 135. Right now it's Lore and Midas stuff. 240. Next year it'll probably be 350. Who knows.

We get content patches like clockwork. Roughly every 3 months. New dungeons, new story, new everything. Just as you finish gearing out one job at max, and maybe a secondary at slightly less, bam more stuff to do.

[madolyn]

IDK. when I had tons of time to play every day I found myself with a very small amount of stuff to do because I would always power through stuff. Now that I've started working days and play in the evenings and weekends, I almost feel overwhelmed with all the stuff I have to or can do. For me, personally, it feels like just the right amount of stuff. Maybe you just need a break?

[KeluBehemoth]

If ALL you do is your dailies and tribes, thats only about 10 per week. Thats 2 months to finish that step (if you were lucky enough to have ARR tribes levelled. Longer with Vanu and Gnath). The content is meaningless, theres plenty of it but its meaningless due to lockouts and grinds that get nerfed. So its a blatant lie if you say you've finished 3 hyper conductives by doing dailies and beast tribes, since thats 6 months for that step ALONE on 3 relics at that pace.

Also thats a problem with vertical progression. Not MMOs. Infact most people who hate this system are 10+ year MMO gamers pre WoWs Panda land.

[coco1851]

I started playing this a few months after beta then left because I was hard core addicted to dcuo. My fiancé always goes between games but I still remember his pre-order of this game & all the other FF games he played prior to xiv. He is endgame such as yourself, were as I'm not because I was gone for a very long time & I'm not interested in rushing to end game for several reasons (1 being exactly what you are complaining about). I literally only played 2 weeks on my free membership on PS3 & just came back about 2 months ago. If you truly feel this way then it probably is best to take a break or leave because you sound like we did when we left dcuo. I've asked him numerous times, if he thinks they need to up the content releases, should a certain raid be nerfed, if there should be more gear added based off your role, all of these questions about end game that I see on here. He always says nothing needs to change it is perfect. He also says some people that are asking SE to do something that ruined previous FF games, or other mmo's well their just dumb. All I can say to you is dcuo has monthly content if that's what your really looking for but that because of them adding monthly content it created an even bigger mess of other things. You say you would hate for this game to take 'that' path. Go look at dcuo then come back let's see if you still sing the same toon because SE doesn't even have the magnitude of problems that daybreak games or cyberstep has come to think of it. So I'm sorry no I don't think this game is in 'desperate' need of more content. I do look forward to more content in the future but I'm not in a hurry for it not even if I was end game because when Devs are rushed to release content sooner it has proven to be washed up, boring content, that prolongs other issues that need fixing.

[ADVSS]

I'm with you OP the formula hasnt changed somce 2.0 its gotten stagnant, and really redundant. Im not gonna cry over spilt milk, I didnt expect the expanson to improve upon a system that worked well, but seriously, 2 expert dungeons? for real? 3 was voging enougn give us 2? to grind for 4 months or more? its seriously stuff like this that turns this game to a login then go to work. say howdy then come back 9 hours later.

[Waterdeep]

Well then just leave the game, cancel your account. Only way to show SE that you are not satisfied with the current state of the game. Posting long posts about that is awry won't change a lot since I have never seen a developer post anything in the NA forum, probably for the better of all.

[Dorander]

If ALL you do is your dailies and tribes, thats only about 10 per week. Thats 2 months to finish that step (if you were lucky enough to have ARR tribes levelled. Longer with Vanu and Gnath). The content is meaningless, theres plenty of it but its meaningless due to lockouts and grinds that get nerfed. So its a blatant lie if you say you've finished 3 hyper conductives by doing dailies and beast tribes, since thats 6 months for that step ALONE on 3 relics at that pace.

Also thats a problem with vertical progression. Not MMOs. Infact most people who hate this system are 10+ year MMO gamers pre WoWs Panda land.

I have 2 hyperconductives, and I said I was working toward a third. Not 3 completed, reread what I said. I have 7 completed zetas. You may have gotten confused there. Yes, I have all 5 of the ARR beast tribes at max rep. So, let's do that math - 2 months of work (which is do-able) for one hyperconductive and I've completed 2, so 4 months. I'm also partially toward another, by pretty much not focusing on it at all. See, Since I had so many zetas completed I've gotten to totally skip the FATE grinding first part, blast through the second and be well on my way into the unidentified part. Working on more zetas and having those beast tribes at max rep really did help give me a firm foot forward with poetic tomestones and unidentifieds.

Now on to the rest of your statement. Only you believe the content is meaningless. As I said, when I started replying to this thread - just because you wish to ignore content because it doesn't interest you doesn't mean it's meaningless. Again don't say "most people" just to add weight to your argument, that's a fallacy. Maybe those in your circle believe the way you do, but that doesn't speak for everyone.