Feedback on harassment

[Greydor]

It's a game that people *PAY* for. If you ordered a pizza & it arrived with a used condom on it you'd not say "it's just a pizza". When you pay for something you're entitled to expect a reasonably satisfying experience. If it was a free game that youyou didn't invest in then fair enough, but it's not, it's a paid for service - just like that pizza.

That's kind of extreme. It's not SE's fault that people don't have respect for other players.

It'd be different if you ordered a pizza, it was delivered perfectly, then some neighbor ran up to your pizza and put something gross on it. Then you turn to the pizza company and ask them to go get that person. They may decide not to deliver pizza to your neighbor anymore, but that's about the extent they can do.

[SpiritMuse]

That's kind of extreme. It's not SE's fault that people don't have respect for other players.

It'd be different if you ordered a pizza, it was delivered perfectly, then some neighbor ran up to your pizza and put something gross on it. Then you turn to the pizza company and ask them to go get that person. They may decide not to deliver pizza to your neighbor anymore, but that's about the extent they can do.

I think it's closer to being in a pizza restaurant and having another customer messing up your pizza. We are playing in an environment created and maintained by SE, after all.

[MoraClaret]

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FFXIV is constructed and maintained by SE. You agree to a Terms of Service when you sign up to the game. You pay them for a service that they consistently provide. You don't just check in once a month when you pay your sub fee, you effectively "live" on the FFXIV servers.

It's much more like you're eating pizza in a pizza restaurant, and another customer comes up to your table and starts yelling at you and knocking your food off the table. You can deal with that in different ways, but are you ultimately responsible for dealing with that abusive customer? Of course not. The management at that pizza restaurant would call the cops or intervene in some way and kick the abusive customer out.

[Greydor]

FFXIV is constructed and maintained by SE. You agree to a Terms of Service when you sign up to the game. You pay them for a service that they consistently provide. You don't just check in once a month when you pay your sub fee, you effectively "live" on the FFXIV servers.

It's much more like you're eating pizza in a pizza restaurant, and another customer comes up to your table and starts yelling at you and knocking your food off the table. You can deal with that in different ways, but are you ultimately responsible for dealing with that abusive customer? Of course not. The management at that pizza restaurant would call the cops or intervene in some way and kick the abusive customer out.

TEAM FFXIV PLAYERS: LET US NO LONGER CONTINUE WITH PIZZA ANALOGIES! KTHX BALMUNG CONTROLS LIVE LETTERS HOUSING IS BAD PVP IS LOL.

[MoraClaret]

TEAM FFXIV PLAYERS: LET US NO LONGER CONTINUE WITH PIZZA ANALOGIES! KTHX BALMUNG CONTROLS LIVE LETTERS HOUSING IS BAD PVP IS LOL.

I was continuing your analogy because that's how conversation works.

[Niwashi]

It's not SE's fault that people don't have respect for other players.

The first time someone insults / abuses / threatens another player, that's not SE's fault. But if that abusive player stays around to keep doing it after they've been reported, at that point, all further abuse from them is SE's fault. They're supposed to be stopping it and aren't doing so.