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    To be fair, I sympathize with the OP's point to a degree, especially since Yoshi-P had made it clear he wanted players to have multiple ways to play.

    But you can STILL viably solo through the game, albeit at a slower place and to be fair, partying should ALWAYS be the fastest/best way to level in an MMO, especially an MMO in a series with a high focus on partying in its single-player entries.

    Like others have said, if patch 1.18 was game-changing, this patch rewrote the goddamn laws of physics. Things are SO different even the known bugs are nuts. You've gotta go out there and explore to find out what mobs will give you the best gains based on what you want. There's no fast track to anything now.

    It's a brand new world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    To be fair, I sympathize with the OP's point to a degree, especially since Yoshi-P had made it clear he wanted players to have multiple ways to play.

    But you can STILL viably solo through the game, albeit at a slower place and to be fair, partying should ALWAYS be the fastest/best way to level in an MMO, especially an MMO in a series with a high focus on partying in its single-player entries.

    Like others have said, if patch 1.18 was game-changing, this patch rewrote the goddamn laws of physics. Things are SO different even the known bugs are nuts. You've gotta go out there and explore to find out what mobs will give you the best gains based on what you want. There's no fast track to anything now.

    It's a brand new world.
    I can deal with slow. What I can't deal with is linking mobs who absolutely inhibit my ability to continue as I was. In some respects, it's as if solo play was almost nixed in favor of this system.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Lv25, as stated in the OP. And yes, I have been off the trails and around the world.
    Really? because I found 2 seperate camps this morning while doing Maelstrom side quests. All of the crabs were 26-27 with a few 29s on the far side of the clumps. Both places are within a few minutes of Bloodshore. If I wasn't at work I'd pull up a map and mark it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive Spellrifter
    /looks at check list.
    1) Patch Implemented............................CHECK
    2) Threads complaining about changes......CHECK
    3) ....
    4) Players Adapt

    Everything is advancing as normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theonate View Post
    Really? because I found 2 seperate camps this morning while doing Maelstrom side quests. All of the crabs were 26-27 with a few 29s on the far side of the clumps. Both places are within a few minutes of Bloodshore. If I wasn't at work I'd pull up a map and mark it for you.
    You know those crabs will lottery into 29's eventually and link each other, resulting in death? I'm very familiar with that entire area, and have already tried it since patch.
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    Then try the few hundred goats/dodos between horizon and nophica wells, I've havent seen them ever link and you can make laps aroud a few key landmarks. The patch hasn't been out very long, I doubt you've looked everywhere. I know I havent, and I've made more laps of Eorzea in the last 24 hours than I had in the last 3 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive Spellrifter
    /looks at check list.
    1) Patch Implemented............................CHECK
    2) Threads complaining about changes......CHECK
    3) ....
    4) Players Adapt

    Everything is advancing as normal

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    Hah, you know, in fact Horizon area was the first place I inspected on my Lv25 Archer after patching. /shrug
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    The linked mobs can be done, even at equal level. The crowd control spells/abilities are more important than before. Start using roots, binds, and sleeps. At least that what I started to do and I'm handling equal level linked monsters.
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  8. #28
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    Someone else in another thread also recommended using potions, which I do, and you might wanna consider raising up Thaumaturge or Conjuror for some healing abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLion View Post
    So let me get this straight...

    An MMO, also known as a Massively Multiplayer Online game, has to have solo content? Really? Then why the hell are you in an MMO to begin with? Seriously, people lost the meaning of MMO because of how they were evolved, and that evolution that some dude mentioned is really not a good thing...
    man I have been saying this since I first saw people complaining about not being able to solo in their MMORPGs... and I always get told "gtfo white knight we want to solo D:< f___ playing with other people!!!?!?!?!?! I play it for the story D:<!!!!" Seriously you can't talk logic to these people... they ignore the MMO part of the game saying it just means that there is many other people populating the world around them and doesn't mean they should interact with them.... which makes me /facepalm a F350 into my forehead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive View Post
    The linked mobs can be done, even at equal level. The crowd control spells/abilities are more important than before. Start using roots, binds, and sleeps. At least that what I started to do and I'm handling equal level linked monsters.
    Sort of missing my point. Mobs don't respawn at equal levels in most ranges. Plus, this sounds like it would really only work with DoM and /aoe on.
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