3.3 Hinderences

[Noshpan]

Go play a F2P like Blade & Soul or Black Desert. The PvE is hilariously easy to the point you won't even have to pay attention. That's more or less what you seem to be asking for. I hate this instant gratification generation. It's been out three days. A few wipes should happen.

Hell, Blade and Soul is so easy you can bot the entire game and win.

[Fynlar]

Unfortunately, it is likely time for you to move on if you're quitting over getting a bad DF party within 3 days of a new patch with new content. Hopefully you can find a game that's more entertaining to you. Personally, I'm glad to see this thought process go and I hope this patch leads to a sort of culling of people who adhere to it.

Not just one, several. Like I said, the game has gotten too tiresome to keep playing.

However, myself and many others seem to be on the opposite end of the spectrum from you. You know what content I found tedious and aggravating? Face-rolling my way through Anti-tower and Lost City of Amdapor day in and day out for my lore tomes or trying not to pass out as I dozed my way through the snooze-fest of Void Ark for the umpteenth time.

I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties.

The sad thing is, though, that given a week or two, all of this content will be just as mind-numbingly tedious as you desire it to be,

It's already gotten mind-numbingly tedious. It wasn't before. That's my whole point.

[Savagelf]

I seen a thread nidhogg the destory of pugs seem nidhogg is challanging enough

[Seraphix2407]

I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties.

Have it ever occurred to you that even if you do roulettes, you still shouldn't slack. If you have that sort of attitude everywhere, things like wiping 24-7 fest in new 24 man will happen. Many slack and take things too granted. It's all about mememememememememe but not about the rest in the team trying their best. Why do people want to get things handed at them for doing nothing? What's so hard improving yourself as a player, because if you don't, you might as well play singleplayer. Even if you do, you still will see hinderences in that game, because you need to do certain things to beat a boss, fight or whatever you are doing. And if you can't that's completely fine, because you play alone, you don't do that in a multiplayer game.

[Fynlar]

Have it ever occurred to you that even if you do roulettes, you still shouldn't slack.

I don't see what this has to do with anything. Where did I say that I "slack", in your words?

Is it just because I happen to like being able to clear 4-mans in a reasonable amount of time because that's what I've been used to? Because I'm far from the only one around here with that point of view.

[Ranulf]

I think they need to nerf boss hp. In my best run it still took 65 minutes to win with 3 wipes. That's nuts! And I STILL haven't gotten a drop so I have to go again! WHY DO YOU HATE ME RNG

Sounds like it wasn't your best run then.

Ever stop to think that those 3 wipes contributed heavily to the 65 minutes?

When they're current, an extreme fight should only take about 8-9 minutes, assuming everything is executed as it should be.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I don't see what this has to do with anything. Where did I say that I "slack", in your words?

Is it just because I happen to like being able to clear 4-mans in a reasonable amount of time because that's what I've been used to? Because I'm far from the only one around here with that point of view.

If you're taking an hour to complete a single expert roulette, the issue is very much on you regardless of your role.

[Seraphix2407]

I don't see what this has to do with anything. Where did I say that I "slack", in your words?

Is it just because I happen to like being able to clear 4-mans in a reasonable amount of time because that's what I've been used to? Because I'm far from the only one around here with that point of view.

1 hour to complete a dungeon is slack, believe it or not, that's slack.

I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties..

People tend do to this and then transfer that slacknes into 24 man raid or other content and expect a free roll. No it doesn't work like that. I'm sorry I said YOU, but you said you did a dungeon for 1 hour, which is super slow. Many people with that sort of attitude wont get far in bigger groups, that's why many go crazy when people don't listen in new 24 man raid and those who doesn't listen just sit back and act like it some sort of leveling roulette, it's selfish and stupid.

[Fynlar]

Ahh, yes, because I had an EX roulette take me an hour, it must be my fault, right? What happened to the whole "this game is a group effort" mentality you guys were pushing just a few pages ago?

you said you did a dungeon for 1 hour, which is super slow.

No kidding. Why do you think I'm finding this patch frustrating?

[Seraphix2407]

Ahh, yes, because I had an EX roulette take me an hour, it must be my fault, right? What happened to the whole "this game is a group effort" mentality you guys were pushing just a few pages ago?



No kidding. Why do you think I'm finding this patch frustrating?

I get you but it's a good step SE made things harder, because people are slacking hell. I know you are frustrated as well, since you said u unsubbed I wish you good luck. However this isn't all on random people but me, you and everyone else in this thread. It is a group thing yes, but keep in mind some people in this thread also are reason why we wipe too, because some in here choice to ignore what people say. I wish you good luck too.

I do know the patch is new and there will be fail, but yes if there is anything we do agree on, people will slack and we see them in bigger numbers since 3.3 came out and I'm super glad it happen, it wont make me unsub, far from it, it will actually store some hope and faith back to square enix.