Thread: 3.3 Hinderences

My biggest issue with the whole thing as been the extreme level of toxicity by the community. Verbally abusing someone for struggling with the mechanics is NOT going to help the figure it out. You're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. I agree that us casual players need to learn the machanics better since most of us don't do raids but none of us deserve to be disrespected like this either. I gerantee those keyboard warriors wouldn't act like this face to face. Want to reduce wipes find out what the player is overlooking and advise them especially if you want to prance around with a mentor symbol and if you get the " don't tell me how to play" line then all bet are off in regard to how to treat that person

Originally Posted by Warghoul570

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Problem is, it's not about mechanics, it's also about players REFUSING to listen to what people say when a player dies a lot. You see the problem is also when people do expert roulette, they act like its a level up dungeon when it's not. Just because it's facerol content doesnt mean you have to ignore how you should play the class. How many people been doing so bad dps and wiped boss at 1-2%. Those people doing low damage could done more, which would lead to a kill as well. Bigest problem are the people who don't do anything they should do or lack some part of it. I've never seen people complain when people learn fast and take advice, I see people shout and scream when people aren't willing to listen or even do a propper rotation. That my friend is toxic.

Unfortunately, it is likely time for you to move on if you're quitting over getting a bad DF party within 3 days of a new patch with new content. Hopefully you can find a game that's more entertaining to you. Personally, I'm glad to see this thought process go and I hope this patch leads to a sort of culling of people who adhere to it.

Not just one, several. Like I said, the game has gotten too tiresome to keep playing.

However, myself and many others seem to be on the opposite end of the spectrum from you. You know what content I found tedious and aggravating? Face-rolling my way through Anti-tower and Lost City of Amdapor day in and day out for my lore tomes or trying not to pass out as I dozed my way through the snooze-fest of Void Ark for the umpteenth time.

I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties.

The sad thing is, though, that given a week or two, all of this content will be just as mind-numbingly tedious as you desire it to be,

It's already gotten mind-numbingly tedious. It wasn't before. That's my whole point.

Originally Posted by Fynlar

I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties.

Have it ever occurred to you that even if you do roulettes, you still shouldn't slack. If you have that sort of attitude everywhere, things like wiping 24-7 fest in new 24 man will happen. Many slack and take things too granted. It's all about mememememememememe but not about the rest in the team trying their best. Why do people want to get things handed at them for doing nothing? What's so hard improving yourself as a player, because if you don't, you might as well play singleplayer. Even if you do, you still will see hinderences in that game, because you need to do certain things to beat a boss, fight or whatever you are doing. And if you can't that's completely fine, because you play alone, you don't do that in a multiplayer game.

Originally Posted by Fynlar

Not just one, several. Like I said, the game has gotten too tiresome to keep playing.



I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties.



It's already gotten mind-numbingly tedious. It wasn't before. That's my whole point.

And? The patch has been out four days now and they want to scale up the difficulty slightly. Being able to faceroll even dungeons literally an hour into a patch cycle should be considered a negative. I get not wanting dungeons to easily have you sweating bullets, but I also do not want them so easy I'm falling asleep whenever I play healer. They won't take an hour in a week or two. That being said, no offense, but I have to question either you, your group or both if it actually took that long to complete any dungeon in this game. Someone wasn't pulling their weight.

I seen a thread nidhogg the destory of pugs seem nidhogg is challanging enough

Originally Posted by Fynlar

I don't see what this has to do with anything. Where did I say that I "slack", in your words?

Is it just because I happen to like being able to clear 4-mans in a reasonable amount of time because that's what I've been used to? Because I'm far from the only one around here with that point of view.

1 hour to complete a dungeon is slack, believe it or not, that's slack.

Originally Posted by Fynlar

I actually liked these dungeons because they didn't take an hour to complete, even with "bad" parties..

People tend do to this and then transfer that slacknes into 24 man raid or other content and expect a free roll. No it doesn't work like that. I'm sorry I said YOU, but you said you did a dungeon for 1 hour, which is super slow. Many people with that sort of attitude wont get far in bigger groups, that's why many go crazy when people don't listen in new 24 man raid and those who doesn't listen just sit back and act like it some sort of leveling roulette, it's selfish and stupid.

Originally Posted by Fynlar

I don't see what this has to do with anything. Where did I say that I "slack", in your words?

Is it just because I happen to like being able to clear 4-mans in a reasonable amount of time because that's what I've been used to? Because I'm far from the only one around here with that point of view.

If you're taking an hour to complete a single expert roulette, the issue is very much on you regardless of your role.