3.3 Hinderences

**Fynlar** · 06-11-2016 11:24 AM

Ahh, yes, because I had an EX roulette take me an hour, it must be my fault, right? What happened to the whole "this game is a group effort" mentality you guys were pushing just a few pages ago?

you said you did a dungeon for 1 hour, which is super slow.

No kidding. Why do you think I'm finding this patch frustrating?

**Seraphix2407** · 06-11-2016 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Fynlar

Ahh, yes, because I had an EX roulette take me an hour, it must be my fault, right? What happened to the whole "this game is a group effort" mentality you guys were pushing just a few pages ago?

No kidding. Why do you think I'm finding this patch frustrating?

I get you but it's a good step SE made things harder, because people are slacking hell. I know you are frustrated as well, since you said u unsubbed I wish you good luck. However this isn't all on random people but me, you and everyone else in this thread. It is a group thing yes, but keep in mind some people in this thread also are reason why we wipe too, because some in here choice to ignore what people say. I wish you good luck too.

I do know the patch is new and there will be fail, but yes if there is anything we do agree on, people will slack and we see them in bigger numbers since 3.3 came out and I'm super glad it happen, it wont make me unsub, far from it, it will actually store some hope and faith back to square enix.

**ServerCollaps** · 06-11-2016 11:32 AM

I just had a 17 min pug expert run (that dragon thingy) with ninja and mch as dds, which isnt even the best setup

they are as easy as all other lvl 60 dungeons imo

**Crescents** · 06-11-2016 01:27 PM

Not to be rude... but if you're so dissatisfied with the game why make a flounce post on the forums? For a game you unsubbed from you seem to care an awful lot.
I mean, if you're so over it there's no need to complain on the forums how "hard" it is right?

**Yasuhiro** · 06-11-2016 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Crescents

Not to be rude... but if you're so dissatisfied with the game why make a flounce post on the forums? For a game you unsubbed from you seem to care an awful lot.
I mean, if you're so over it there's no need to complain on the forums how "hard" it is right?

They are entitled to give their feedback you know? I'll defend FFXIV and give it credit where it's due but no one likes a white knight. There's always shit sites like reddit if you want a hug box community where all those nasty opinions that go against the hivemind are hidden because they've been downvoted. People can have their say no matter how right or wrong they are.

I'll say 3.3 is great and shouldn't need nerfing but there's no reason to silence people either.

**Crescents** · 06-12-2016 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Yasuhiro

They are entitled to give their feedback you know? I'll defend FFXIV and give it credit where it's due but no one likes a white knight. There's always shit sites like reddit if you want a hug box community where all those nasty opinions that go against the hivemind are hidden because they've been downvoted. People can have their say no matter how right or wrong they are.

I'll say 3.3 is great and shouldn't need nerfing but there's no reason to silence people either.

Not entirely what I meant, was more directed to the nature of flounce posts not criticism of the game, it has a lot of flaws, but the difficulty of content seems to be one of the few "good" points.
Also not trying to silence anyone? just morbidly curious why someone who has unsubbed and is evidently done with the game feels the need to give feedback.

Sorry if my initial post came off antagonistic.

**Yasuhiro** · 06-12-2016 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Crescents

Also not trying to silence anyone? just morbidly curious why someone who has unsubbed and is evidently done with the game feels the need to give feedback.

Square Enix seems to want it when they give you a survey when you choose to unsubscribe like I did yesterday (nothing to do with state of game just got other games I'd like to not ignore). May as well provide your feedback here too and see other opinions as well.

**Fynlar** · 06-11-2016 02:24 PM

Not to be rude... but if you're so dissatisfied with the game why make a flounce post on the forums? For a game you unsubbed from you seem to care an awful lot.
I mean, if you're so over it there's no need to complain on the forums how "hard" it is right?

Because unlike what a lot of white knighters seem to think, negative feedback is important too.

I also was not particularly dissatisfied with the game until very recently. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't think many people would play a game for around 2.5 years (and continue to pay monthly for it) if they didn't care about it at all

**Teraluna** · 06-11-2016 02:48 PM

The story quest should not be any kind of block to people's progression. It's the core, the turn of the page to read the next twist in the adventure. Essentially it's the RP side, as your character walks in the world.
Now challenges should be in the game, and for those who want it - escalating to extremely difficult. This is raiding, the organizing of larger groups to tackle ever increasing challenges - not for the story, (which other games have already learnt), but for the sheer motivation in beating the challenge set by the raid level. You beat that one? Right here's the next mode of it - think you can do this then? Bring it on.

But that's not for everyone, nor should it be, not everyone has time or even mindset for raiding challenges. FFXIV isn't unique by any means in having a varied playerbase. But putting the story quest behind an impossible for some raid wall is completely wrong in my opinion. They should be separate, and could well influence the population retention if not.

**Toguro** · 06-11-2016 02:53 PM

Are you talking about Nidhogg? O.o

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