Preferred Healer

[Joe_Schmoe]

Good morning (here), everyone.

I'm not using this as a means to determine what job I play as. I'm playing the one I enjoy most. I'm only curious from a tank's perspective. As a tank, what healer do you prefer to have, if any? I'm sure some don't care as long as they do their job. At least that's what I think when I play my War or Drk.

Thanks for the input.

Overall I don't have a preference. If anything it'd be a slight bias towards scholar since it's the healer I play the most, so I'd have a better idea of what he's doing, but that's about it.

[_slowpoke_]

A good WHM doesn't spam Holy if Blood Price is up or at least he/she waits until your mana is full again.

A good DRK realizes that the burst AoE DPS a good WHM can put out is a lot higher than what they can realistically put out in the same time, and therefore holds off activating Blood Price until the stun immunity kicks in. It's an overall DPS loss for the group for the WHM to wait until Blood Price falls off to start AoEing, so no, we're not gonna do that.

[Atoli]

As I mostly tank in leveling roulette, I prefer WHM and AST, because SCH can't use despell in most of the dungeons yet and none of the SCHs I met have Selene instead of Eos out (and even if they do, it's a 1 minute cooldown).

[Enkonda]

Any healer that can get the job done efficiently is okay with me; I don't have a preferred healer. Though, I found White Mages to be a tad bit better with bigger pulls in my opinion. All about whether the healer knows how to play their job correctly.

[Chronons]

A good DRK realizes that the burst AoE DPS a good WHM can put out is a lot higher than what they can realistically put out in the same time

3 mobs. Holy will do 540 potency (200 +180 +160) Abyssal will do 360 (120 x 3). In 5 Holy casts (17.5secs) you can get off 7 Abyssal drains, 5 x 540= 2700 vs. 7 x 360=2520. However, DRK also has an oGCD that is purely a mana cost in Dark Passenger. It adds 250 potency to DRKs spam potential without adding any time or GCDs bringing its total to 2770. Also, just by using these moves the DRK is generating enmity(Abyssal) and mitigating damage(DA Dark Passenger). How are you justifying "a lot higher" AoE dps to the point of denying you DRK their best use of Blood Price?

[Zeggy]

I prefer AST and the only reason for that is that I really prefer Regens over barriers when I'm in a 4 person dungeon, but unless the WHM is paying attention, they usually run in and start holying right away. Which is nice, but I like to play DRK, and all the stuns ruins my blood price + Abyssal drain combo. I mean, it's not detrimental but it's frustrating.

[Causality]

I love me an Astro that Spires me when I chain pull. Can a White mage or a SCH give me TP? NO. Can a SCH or WHM Boost Raid DPS During a heal heavy Phase? NO. Can a WHM or SCH Boost a Monk's Skill speed so much that they cause the Monk to break down in tears when their TP drains so fast they can never recover from it all while cackling maniacally over voice while they do it? Nope!

[winsock]

5 x 540= 2700 vs. 7 x 360=2520. However, DRK also has an oGCD that is purely a mana cost in Dark Passenger. It adds 250 potency to DRKs spam potential without adding any time or GCDs bringing its total to 2770.

A few things you left out:
The added dmg bonus from CS and DS
Aero III
WHM also has:
Assize and PoM which can be used without adding any time.
You also may need to consider Grit's dps penalty.


Lastly, how much dps the WHM or DRK job can do individually is secondary. It isn't so much a question of who has better dps, but:
Will party dps be higher if WHM delays Holy for 15 seconds b/c of BP, or if DRK hold off on BP for ~6 second stun... Typically, its the latter.

[SyzzleSpark]

You can Abyssal Drain for several GCDs before activating BP to see if the WHM is going to spam Holy. If they are just wait for them to stop. I.E. pull all the things and if theres no Holy then pop BP and if there is Holy keep an eye on the stun and hit BP when they're locked. You can easily AoE at least enough to hold hate for that duration and then pop BP and... keep AoEing. Its actually more than likely a DPS gain for the DRK as well.

TLDR its not Abyssal Drain than you need to hold off on b/c of Holy, only Blood Price. And you can easily get 4-5 casts off (well over 6s duration of the stun, around 9-12s) before you need to worry about MP and by then you should be able to pop Blood Price no problem.

That being said I love AST in dungeons b/c cards and I don't even need to worry about that crap with Gravity and Gravity looks cooler :3

In raids, well, SCH obviously.

[_slowpoke_]

A few things you left out:

Not to mention the fact that comparing bare potencies across jobs makes little sense, because of different stats and scaling.

Lastly, how much dps the WHM or DRK job can do individually is secondary. It isn't so much a question of who has better dps, but:
Will party dps be higher if WHM delays Holy for 15 seconds b/c of BP, or if DRK hold off on BP for ~6 second stun... Typically, its the latter.

Pretty much this, yes.