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  1. #11
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    If you really want to dedicate yourself to efficient healing, MP management, and are willing to memorize the boss fights then WHM.

    If you want snooze-mode healing then Scholar.

    If you want fancy spell animations then ACH.
    One thing to say : complete opposite XD

    Whm tend to burn all mana for each pack (especially on DPS)
    Sch is great healing, great aoe DPS and almost nothing to heal thanks to fairy management
    AST is flashy and destructive spell, rapid healing, huge mana regen and bonus card
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  2. #12
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    Quentin Hood
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    One thing to say : complete opposite XD

    Whm tend to burn all mana for each pack (especially on DPS)
    Sch is great healing, great aoe DPS and almost nothing to heal thanks to fairy management
    AST is flashy and destructive spell, rapid healing, huge mana regen and bonus card
    I think we're saying the same thing, just different perspectives.

    WHM uses a ton of MP (not that I would judge much of anything on trash packs, most tanks can use CD's thru the dungeon on those and get by)
    SCH has fairy to do all the healing for you
    AST is flashy...
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  3. #13
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    I don't tank often but when I do my preferred healer is "anyone I know and 'trust' ".
    I don't like tanking without a friend healing... doesn't matter what job. I know what they're going to do so I can act accordingly (and vice versa, they know how I tank).

    If that is impossible... I guess SCH since I know at least Lily will keep me alive.
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  4. #14
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    I think we're saying the same thing, just different perspectives.

    WHM uses a ton of MP (not that I would judge much of anything on trash packs, most tanks can use CD's thru the dungeon on those and get by)
    SCH has fairy to do all the healing for you
    AST is flashy...
    I was curious of the tank's preference in healer. I'm aware of the differences in each healer. I have Whm and Sch at 60 and working on Ast (poops and giggles).
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  5. #15
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    Red_Wolf's Avatar
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    Quentin Hood
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    I was curious of the tank's preference in healer. I'm aware of the differences in each healer. I have Whm and Sch at 60 and working on Ast (poops and giggles).
    Can't say I've ever given it a second thought as a tank, besides giving WHM's a little more time between pulls to recoup MP.
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  6. #16
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    Sir Garun
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    One that doesn't let me die in Cleric Stance.
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  7. #17
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    If you want snooze-mode healing then Scholar.
    I've been playing all wrong I guess. As the scholar I am always watching my main healer's casts and the party's HP on top of making sure Lilly is spamming embrace every cast/appropriate cool downs are in use for her. If someone dies to raw damage after the main heal is using the appropriate heal (single vs aoe) it's the off heal scholars fault. Not gonna let that happen. On top of this I'm gonna push my dps to make up for the 85% of the time that I'm not needed (even though Lilly does a considerable amount of healing overtime with rouse and that I can mitigate tank busters/massive aoe with virus.)
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-01-2016 at 04:02 AM.

  8. #18
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    Quentin Hood
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    On top of this I'm gonna push my dps to make up for the 85% of the time that I'm not needed
    Congrats on pushing your DPS. I'm sure you're an asset to your static. But we're blurring the lines here. I say SCH isn't needed much for healing because of the fairy, then you disagree but admit you're not required to heal 85% of the time. I mean... come on man. If you're only required to heal 15% of the time then I'd say that's a lot less intensive healing. I don't think anyone is expecting you drop a bomb DPS-wise, but good for you for pushing it anyway.
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  9. #19
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    It's not the fact that you're not healing, it's that you should always be watching for when your main healer cannot. So you are actively watching for when heals are needed, gauging if the main healer can handle it. AOE incoming in 1.5 seconds, main heal is just now starting Medica, cs off, idom. xD
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-01-2016 at 04:59 AM.

  10. #20
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    DPSing SCH, wish I remembered the name of 1 because I would definitely plug them (or ask for a POV video-capture to learn from them).

    I remember feeling embarrassed because they were either clipping me or beating me on EncDPS in Fractal Cont (even Trash O_o). Not all DPSing SCHs are the same I guess, or else I've just not been getting out enough. This was before the VIT/STR adjustment and I think they were pulling ~500+ EncDPS on trash, bosses even higher..

    What do SCHs usually hit on charts, or are proud of (Dungeons)? Each dungeon and party config changes the expectation I suppose.

    Is this exceptional (certainly felt so), even possible, was ACT broken? How does SCH get 500+ on trash? I can't imagine the trash lived long enough to warrant a Bio 2 refresh.

    I switched from WHM to SCH as my healer job after that instance, hope to be that impressive someday.

    my preferred healer is this person whomever they are.
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 06-01-2016 at 01:31 PM.

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