Why isn't housing priced higher? (why is housing random luck)

[CuteWhisper]

I think GM were talking about reseling a house in exchange for real money :/

No you can get banned from selling a house and advertising it on PF. It happened before. Just have to report them.

[Celef]

No you can get banned from selling a house and advertising it on PF. It happened before. Just have to report them.

well, i'll get my little fingers ready to report then

And also housing is suposed to be somewhat exlusive,no? And a huge gil sink.

Fine, in that case, why should someone who does not have a house pay the same sub that someone who does ? If we can't all have access to the same content because some of it is "exclusive" we should get a discount on the sub. After all that's what they did for the collector edition of the game, you pay more, you get the exclusive items, you don't want / can't afford them ? you pay the cheaper edition with no bonus.
(the big difference being you don't need the mog doll to have access to all the feature this time.....)

[RoseOfTheRaven]

well, i'll get my little fingers ready to report then



Fine, in that case, why should someone who does not have a house pay the same sub that someone who does ? If we can't all have access to the same content because some of it is "exclusive" we should get a discount on the sub. -snip-

That's like saying that people who don't have ponies or birds yet should get a discount on their sub. Housing, like these is not exclusive. It's available to everyone in game. Sure more populated servers fill up fast-they took some measures to get rid of inactive's holding houses. And it all depends on the server you play on. Our server had a lot of houses around for a long time. It was only a few months ago that the last plot was sold. Housing is not a requirement and you aren't gonna be gimped if you don't have one. It's purely cosmetic (except gardening which..well theres still a marketboard and if u really need it, why not ask to joint someone's personal?)

[Celef]

That's like saying that people who don't have ponies or birds yet should get a discount on their sub. Housing, like these is not exclusive. It's available to everyone in game. Sure more populated servers fill up fast-they took some measures to get rid of inactive's holding houses. And it all depends on the server you play on. Housing is not a requirement and you aren't gonna be gimped if you don't have one. It's purely cosmetic (except gardening which..well theres still a marketboard and if u really need it, why not ask to joint someone's personal?)

No

You can farm birdies if you want / have the time because there is enought birds., You can't farm houses if there is not enough plot so it is exclusive cause a lot of players can't have access to it, not because of time / money issues but because SE did not add enoough of it for everyone.
And yes, no houses means no gardening, no stabble for chocobo and, for FC no airship so no, housing is not just cosmetic, it envolves features

Our server had a lot of houses around for a long time. It was only a few months ago that the last plot was sold.

Fine, if SE won't add enough plot for everyone to get a house on "populated servres", then just give me a free transfer so i can go to a less populated server. Why should i pay if SE does not want to give the opportinity to EVERYONE to play the same game ?

Let's take an example you got to a restaurant and take the menu with cake as desert but....no more cake so no mor desert.
Won't you ask for a discount cause you don't want to pay for the food you cant' have because not enough supplies ? here is the same

[Altena]

Fine, in that case, why should someone who does not have a house pay the same sub that someone who does ? If we can't all have access to the same content because some of it is "exclusive" we should get a discount on the sub.

Sorry but I just found this response absolutely hilarious.

Requiring a lot of in-game currency for something does not make something "exclusive". Anyone can make gil. It is just a matter of how much time and effort they are willing to spend on making that gil. Some of the richest people on the server do nothing in the game but craft and make gil. That's why they are so rich. If you want that amount of wealth then that's what it takes.

You pay for sub, and if you "choose" not to partake in a certain piece of content, does that make you eligible for a cheaper sub? Hell no.

That is effectively what you are arguing here though..

(I do sense a hint of sarcasm in your post. Apologies if there isn't any).

[Seraphix2407]

fine, in that case, why should someone who does not have a house pay the same sub that someone who does ? If we can't all have access to the same content because some of it is "exclusive" we should get a discount on the sub. A)

My bad, I shouldn't have used the word exlusive, but everyone do have access to get a house. The way you say things, sounds like 90% of the crafters should pay less sub too, because many can't afford being 3 star crafter.

[Celef]

My bad, I shouldn't have used the word exlusive, but everyone do have access to get a house. The way you say things, sounds like 90% of the crafters should pay less sub too, because many can't afford being 3 star crafter.

There is a difference. Everyone can get 3 stars at so point in the game through hard work, time and effort, SE did not say "ok guys, we only have 100 players able to unlock the 3 stars then, we lock everything"
If 10 players want a house but SE just add 6, 4 players won't have one because not enought plots, that's a fact, it has nothing to do with crafters who don't have the time / patience / wish to get to 3 stars

[Kabzy]

There is a difference. Everyone can get 3 stars at so point in the game through hard work, time and effort, SE did not say "ok guys, we only have 100 players able to unlock the 3 stars then, we lock everything"
If 10 players want a house but SE just add 6, 4 players won't have one because not enought plots, that's a fact, it has nothing to do with crafters who don't have the time / patience / wish to get to 3 stars

To be fair though, there's always someone willing to sell their plot for the right price. One could argue that you (and your FC) could put in some of that hard work, time and effort to get yourselves a plot. Yeah you'll be paying extra, but that doesn't mean to say it's a feature that is unavailable to you. It's not completely fair on the buyer, but at the same time it's also not fair to say that you're being completely excluded from housing. Put in the work, get those millions, and start looking for people willing to sell.

[Celef]

And, just for curiosity, how much do you sell your plot.....? considering the prices we saw before (100M for a small plot just to leave it, then add the price of the plot....)

[Kabzy]

And, just for curiosity, how much do you sell your plot.....? considering the prices we saw before (100M for a small plot just to leave it, then add the price of the plot....)

Okay, that's a slight exaggeration. I'm on the same server as you and for a very long time small plots were going for 10-15 mil. I haven't checked recently, as I already have a house, but I know of people who have recently purchased plots, and they didn't spend more than 20 mil. Now if you take that price, it's still less than what a medium would cost, and the size of the plot doesn't greatly impact the features available to an FC.

From personal experience, I can say that making up to 20 million is not very difficult if you craft alone. So if you have an entire FC saving up, you should get there in no time.

Edit: A few years ago, available housing plots on some servers would start at hundreds of millions, with small plots being around the 50 mil mark. Consider now everyone has a tonne more gil, and they're only asking for 4 mil for a small plot, there isn't much to complain about gil wise.

Edit: And just in case you were specifically asking me, I paid 28 mil for my medium plot, so if I was to sell it, I would be happy with just that.