Wow, no mention of Auction house / MW improvements

[Rane]

It's likely that the establishment of an AH or any major changes to the market ward system will occur only after the server fixes. We don't yet know when the server fixes will be, so we don't know when changes to the system of buying and selling will happen.

The AH was never "taken off" the development list. Only the time frame of the list was changed. The first development list we got had no time frame: it was a simple "to do" list. But late in the spring Yoshida altered the list to reflect only tasks that would release or hit development milestones over the summer. Very long-term tasks were omitted. That includes the zone redesign, which they are obviously working on, but which won't be releasing anytime soon.

Yoshida has already given us a preliminary list of major content expected for 1.20 and 1.21. It's likely that he's going to keep this list relatively short-term. If he doesn't, then we all get overanxious and start complaining. But the fact that changes to the system of buying and selling aren't in our current list doesn't mean they're not happening. It just means they probably won't happen THIS YEAR.

Keep in mind, I'm not arguing that we're definitely getting an AH or anything. But any changes that are likely to put stress on the servers probably aren't going to happen until the server fixes. When we finally approach that point, I think we'll see a lot of items (such as a delivery system) on the to do list.

[Gennosuke]

SE should listen to all the people in this thread that say the game doesnt need an auction house. Most of these people are the same people telling SE they like the game as is. Most of these people love most of the changes SE is making. Most of these people are the same handful o people who were cheering SE on as SE drove the car(FFXIV) over the cliff.

Go ahead SE listen to the people who love the product you have made. Lets see just how quickly we can burn this game down to the ground.

That's the sad reality, but really why waste your time arguing with whiteknights? Surely it doesn't take a genius to realize MW is ass backwards, a ridiculous time-sink and if anything hurts the game. Granted, i'll give them credit for trying something new, unfortunately it just doesn't cut it.
Let's hope SE listens to the voice of reason and save this game from this impending whiteknight doom that attempts to shut down any positive contribution towards this game.

In the end, If SE does implement an AH, I assure you, everyone including these anti AH people will be happy, simply because it works more efficiently. All that's happening atm is the SE defense force is playing it's role.

@ OP - I support your thread. AH is a definite must for the success of this game.
While i do agree with some people who mentioned that it's not the most urgent issue..and i would stress here, not because it's not urgent, but rather because the more critical features are a total mess, hence priority goes to battle system, transportation, job system, world redesign and what not. Someone did mention that's not actually off the list of things to do, just delayed, so that is a good thing to know. Hopefully it gets tackled in the next live session and comes to fruition.

[Belial]

That's the sad reality, but really why waste your time arguing with whiteknights? Surely it doesn't take a genius to realize MW is ass backwards, a ridiculous time-sink and if anything hurts the game. Granted, i'll give them credit for trying something new, unfortunately it just doesn't cut it.
Let's hope SE listens to the voice of reason and save this game from this impending whiteknight doom that attempts to shut down any positive contribution towards this game.

In the end, If SE does implement an AH, I assure you, everyone including these anti AH people will be happy, simply because it works more efficiently. All that's happening atm is the SE defense force is playing it's role.

@ OP - I support your thread. AH is a definite must for the success of this game.
While i do agree with some people who mentioned that it's not the most urgent issue..and i would stress here, not because it's not urgent, but rather because the more critical features are a total mess, hence priority goes to battle system, transportation, job system, world redesign and what not. Someone did mention that's not actually off the list of things to do, just delayed, so that is a good thing to know. Hopefully it gets tackled in the next live session and comes to fruition.

I like how people use the term "white knighting" as a catalyst to prove their obviously more important opinion.

Fact: A better market system & tweaks need to be made.
Fallacy: FFXIV "needs" an AH.

[Molly_Millions]

Fact: A better market system & tweaks need to be made.
Fallacy: FFXIV "needs" and AH.

Belial gets it, why don't the rest of you?

I've never heard anyone say the MW are perfect, just that we don't need an AH. As a matter of fact, most of the folks arguing for an AH and against the wards don't even realize that with a few tweaks, we basically have an AH already.

[TheVedis]

Belial gets it, why don't the rest of you?

I've never heard anyone say the MW are perfect, just that we don't need an AH. As a matter of fact, most of the folks arguing for an AH and against the wards don't even realize that with a few tweaks, we basically have an AH already.

of course they dont get it
in their eyes, we are against their ideas, when in fact, we are moreso just in favor of BETTER things getting added right now

we wont be mad when/if an AH the way they want it gets added, we would however be mad if that caused us to get less content cuz it was pushed up the priority ladder(which it obviously isnt even on at all)

[Gennosuke]

I like how people use the term "white knighting" as a catalyst to prove their obviously more important opinion.

Fact: A better market system & tweaks need to be made.
Fallacy: FFXIV "needs" and AH.

Well, perhaps you have missed the common notion that anti MW people have which is basically to bring something about that works as efficiently as an AH. Me and anyone else who are requesting an AH, simply request it because it works, not because it's an AH. So, until the MW becomes as efficient as AH, expect people to request an AH, because that is what is known to work and it works good.

[syntaxlies]

i am in favor of either as long as it is functional from all three citys. Also i would put map redo, jobs, and battle reg
i would really like to have the option to buy from the item search menu personally. pay an extra 500 gil for a npc to fetch your goods, idc. atever theyll call it) before market redo/fix.

[Renshi]

UGH, you people need to learn to read!

This Q&A was about two things and ONLY two things:

Personal questions for Yoshi-P

Info about Patch 1.19

Since there is obviously going to be no AH in patch 1.19, why would they answer questions about it.

There is going to be another live Q&A in late October / early November to talk about 1.20 and beyond. THAT is where you'll hear about AH/Market Ward improvements, as well as linkshell administrative functionality, party search, etc.

And it was NOT taken off the to do list. The to do list we see is for everything up to 1.20. There is another to do list that will be about 1.21+, and market ward improvements/alternatives will be there.

Once again, READING IS FUNDAMENTAL

Shut up, reading sucks.
(Initiating Flame Wars in a nutshell)

[Chezen]

So, until the MW becomes as efficient as AH, expect people to request an AH, because that is what is known to work and it works good.

Hammer meet nail. What I like most about the MW, like Dreamer, is a vision of what it could be. But most people are too impatient to let it get worked out.

[TonyMontana]

Are you really that inept? They would lose all the money invested in the game up until this point if that were done. Instead we have a working copy of the game, which by the way, a lot of us enjoy. Our enjoyment will inevitably create a word-of-mouth buzz whenever this game is up to snuff. Simply from an accounting perspective the path they've chosen is the right one.

I got you so it cost more to do the right thing. Also how would them pulling it out of the stores stop you from enjoying what you have already purchased?