Wow, no mention of Auction house / MW improvements

[Belial]

That's the sad reality, but really why waste your time arguing with whiteknights? Surely it doesn't take a genius to realize MW is ass backwards, a ridiculous time-sink and if anything hurts the game. Granted, i'll give them credit for trying something new, unfortunately it just doesn't cut it.
Let's hope SE listens to the voice of reason and save this game from this impending whiteknight doom that attempts to shut down any positive contribution towards this game.

In the end, If SE does implement an AH, I assure you, everyone including these anti AH people will be happy, simply because it works more efficiently. All that's happening atm is the SE defense force is playing it's role.

@ OP - I support your thread. AH is a definite must for the success of this game.
While i do agree with some people who mentioned that it's not the most urgent issue..and i would stress here, not because it's not urgent, but rather because the more critical features are a total mess, hence priority goes to battle system, transportation, job system, world redesign and what not. Someone did mention that's not actually off the list of things to do, just delayed, so that is a good thing to know. Hopefully it gets tackled in the next live session and comes to fruition.

I like how people use the term "white knighting" as a catalyst to prove their obviously more important opinion.

Fact: A better market system & tweaks need to be made.
Fallacy: FFXIV "needs" an AH.

[Molly_Millions]

Fact: A better market system & tweaks need to be made.
Fallacy: FFXIV "needs" and AH.

Belial gets it, why don't the rest of you?

I've never heard anyone say the MW are perfect, just that we don't need an AH. As a matter of fact, most of the folks arguing for an AH and against the wards don't even realize that with a few tweaks, we basically have an AH already.

[TheVedis]

Belial gets it, why don't the rest of you?

I've never heard anyone say the MW are perfect, just that we don't need an AH. As a matter of fact, most of the folks arguing for an AH and against the wards don't even realize that with a few tweaks, we basically have an AH already.

of course they dont get it
in their eyes, we are against their ideas, when in fact, we are moreso just in favor of BETTER things getting added right now

we wont be mad when/if an AH the way they want it gets added, we would however be mad if that caused us to get less content cuz it was pushed up the priority ladder(which it obviously isnt even on at all)

[Gennosuke]

I like how people use the term "white knighting" as a catalyst to prove their obviously more important opinion.

Fact: A better market system & tweaks need to be made.
Fallacy: FFXIV "needs" and AH.

Well, perhaps you have missed the common notion that anti MW people have which is basically to bring something about that works as efficiently as an AH. Me and anyone else who are requesting an AH, simply request it because it works, not because it's an AH. So, until the MW becomes as efficient as AH, expect people to request an AH, because that is what is known to work and it works good.

[Chezen]

So, until the MW becomes as efficient as AH, expect people to request an AH, because that is what is known to work and it works good.

Hammer meet nail. What I like most about the MW, like Dreamer, is a vision of what it could be. But most people are too impatient to let it get worked out.

[TonyMontana]

Hammer meet nail. What I like most about the MW, like Dreamer, is a vision of what it could be. But most people are too impatient to let it get worked out.

How many MORE years is that gonna take?

[Molly_Millions]

How many MORE years is that gonna take?

how many more posts is it gonna take before your head explodes?

[TonyMontana]

how many more posts is it gonna take before your head explodes?

Lol im cool as a cucumber homie. This is just kinda fun to poke at you guys with. I enjoy discussing these things. In truth it matters very little to me, I dont dedicate more than say an hour a week to FFXIV anymore. I recently got in Path of Exile beta and have been enjoying it.

[Chezen]

How many more years is that gonna take?

What difference does it make if it helps make this game the best one ever? But an honest answer, I think the game will take about another 6 months to a year as a whole to be PS3 ready.

I don't want to see FF settle for what everyone else does, but there are more than enough people that may force them to do that. That, I think, has a bigger chance of leading to FF's downfall than hurrying up the development.

How much is too much to bite off? That is a question for Yoshi and devs to figure out. Whatever their decisions, I don't think they are making any without a lot of thought.

[Gennosuke]

Hammer meet nail. What I like most about the MW, like Dreamer, is a vision of what it could be. But most people are too impatient to let it get worked out.

To be honest with you, i would like to get a feel of what this vision is and i think not many people do get it and you have to realise one year down the line, not many people will be patient. It is actually a big hassle having to deal with MW overall. Dumbing it down to search item > 30 sec run > done! is not a realistic view of the system, reality is it can take much longer. A simple example is buying a full set of gear, a worse example is what crafters can go through who will inevitably spend alot of time in the MW and i know TonyMontana is a full time crafter so i understand his frustration having taken many crafts, if not all to 50 (him, not me). We haven't even tapped into the bigger prob and that is selling. I'll just sum that one up by saying many including myself have ditched selling and gone vendoring because it's not worth the time, keeping in mind this is meant to be casual friendly.

I hope however, that the vision you speak of, whatever that maybe, is fulfilled by the time the major issues are fixed and this issue will likely be the next on the list. Otherwise, by then, i personally say scratch and bring AH in, or at the very least bring AH in and leave the wards for those fond of it for whatever reason. Though i doubt many would actually care enough for it.

Last but not least, nice sig! Always refreshing to see FFVII best of the series!