Can we have option to VK a player because they are below a reasonable skill level?

[alimdia]

Not sure why people are still arguing, a GM response was posted in page 3 http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...28#post2358628 if someone is preventing the party to finish the duty by not fulfilling their role they can be voted to be dismissed, there's no "if i can enter the content i have the right to be there", it's a group content after all, not solo content, so OP, if this scenario ever appears, you're free to vote dismiss, just don't be too hasty and give them a few chances (like you did).

[Nici]

Not sure why people are still arguing, a GM response was posted in page 3 http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...28#post2358628

Ehh...i think it's great to have a good healthy discussion/debate over things like this with the game community....as long as some of us keep it civil and have our coffee and lunch before we post and stupidly personally attack anther person (sorry again ASHE! lol), it's nice to read people differing opinions and thoughts on the subject...it might even give more additional feedback to the Devs.

[worldofneil]

if someone is preventing the party to finish the duty by not fulfilling their role they can be voted to be dismissed

That's not what they said though:

Good examples of this that have been provided in this thread are the refusal to fulfill one's job function.

Refusing to play the role isn't the same as not being up to the standard you want/not being very good at it. All that Moderator confirmed was if the tank refuses to tank or if the healer refuses to heal or a DPS refuses to attack, then you can kick them. Nothing at all about kicking them because they don't play like you want them to.

[Corfish]

That's not what they said though:



Refusing to play the role isn't the same as not being up to the standard you want/not being very good at it. All that Moderator confirmed was if the tank refuses to tank or if the healer refuses to heal or a DPS refuses to attack, then you can kick them. Nothing at all about kicking them because they don't play like you want them to.

There is not much ambiguity to that sentence. If a person is intentionally acting in a manner that is detrimental to the completion of the duty, then the use of the vote dismiss feature is unlikely to be a violation. If the concern is that this will be used as an excuse to abuse the feature, if our investigation determines that they did perform their duties in an appropriate manner and were kicked due to unrealistic expectations, then it could be found to be an abuse of the vote dismiss feature. A GM investigation will make the final determination about if the feature was used appropriately.

This part implies to me that it doesn't have to be intentional grief. Kicking someone because they won't speedrun? That's improper use of the votekick. Kicking someone because they cannot hold hate at all? You would probably be justified regardless of if they tried or not.