Would you like an in-game parser?

[Kallera]

Objective information is never a bad thing. More people are reasonable than unreasonable. You'd have to be a complete misanthrope to believe that parser data would turn most of the community into elitist assholes.

I do not want the parser. I learn, I try strats and strategies, and i do my damndest in df, but I do not want the parser. I don't want it forced on me as a player, or waved in my face when I play.

[Krissey]

I do not want the parser. I learn, I try strats and strategies, but I do not want the parser. I don't want it forced on me as a player, or waved in my face when i play a dps.

What difference does it really make? There are already trolls, shitlords, assholes and plebs in the duty finder on any level anyway. They're already there. They're alive and well and making duties hell just for funsies and onesies. So what difference does it make? It's not like there's a flat 0% of mean people in the duty finder right now. It probably won't even make "more" - it will just be the same nerds doing the same thing.

[RickXRolled]

I do not want the parser. I learn, I try strats and strategies, and i do my damndest in df, but I do not want the parser. I don't want it forced on me as a player, or waved in my face when i play.

You must love taking exams without being graded.

[Kallera]

You must love taking exams without being graded.

I hate taking exams every day.

[Krissey]

I hate taking exams every day.

Oooooh....it all makes sense. You're afraid of failing the DPS test. What if it turns out you're always top DPS and the best? Would you care about parsers then? If you knew you had nothing to worry about?

[Kallera]

Oooooh....it all makes sense. You're afraid of failing the DPS test. What if it turns out you're always top DPS and the best? Would you care about parsers then? If you knew you had nothing to worry about?

What do you mean?

But how much success you will have this way and how do you know about that?

Just a quick fictive example: You do it this way and have the feeling you are quite good. But in reality, you are just performing around 20% compared to really good players at the same class/job.

You never will know when you just trust your feelings.

I'd rather not care, to be honest, if the effort is akin to a giant wall. I would rather not do it, but i cannot leave things well enough alone to try at first.

The parser is not some raid or content that might be cleared. itll be there forever like total playtime, some thing monitoring me and how "into the game" i am, in a statistic.

You don't like taking tests. You're afraid of failing the test. Parsers are a DPS "test". If your DPS is low you fail, if it's high you pass. What if you found out you always had super high DPS. Would you still be afraid of parsers? I honestly don't think you argument is some altruistic stance that "people will be mean to others" but rather a selfish "I don't want people to be mean to ME because I'm bad." But what if you're super pro and 90th percentile in your class? That would be good to know right?

I'm sure I'm not that, ive never checked anyway to find out. Even if i was that wouldn't stop the general use of parsers to be something to disband a party and disparage people with.

And of course im also worried about getting some of those comments myself. I've read and been told enough PSAs about DPS. I was doing raids in 2.x partly to not be "that person" people complained about at the end of failed pfs and successful roulettes.

Seems like kinda a late time to say "don't worry about it" now when a tool like this gets suggested.

[Krissey]

What do you mean?

You don't like taking tests. You're afraid of failing the test. Parsers are a DPS "test". If your DPS is low you fail, if it's high you pass. What if you found out you always had super high DPS. Would you still be afraid of parsers? I honestly don't think you argument is some altruistic stance that "people will be mean to others" but rather a selfish "I don't want people to be mean to ME because I'm bad." But what if you're super pro and 90th percentile in your class? That would be good to know right?

[KarstenS]

I learn, I try strats and strategies, and i do my damndest in df

But how much success you will have this way and how do you know about that?

Just a quick fictive example: You do it this way and have the feeling you are quite good. But in reality, you are just performing around 20% compared to really good players at the same class/job.

You never will know when you just trust your feelings.

[Neophyte]

If there would be no parser and I really want to have better results by kicking the bad ones, I'd just kick those of my party who [i]seem[\i] to be the problem.
I'd try to [i]proof[\i] it by looking on the attacks (rotation) they perform written in the chatlog and on the numbers shown there, if he does something like 24 GCDs per minute and his gear.
If I don't like his 'different playstyle'... kick.

I guess that's better than using a parser.