The cooldown reset on A8s is unbearable

[Zhexos]

Hey everyone,

The dev. team is aware that there is a large demand for cooldowns to reset after a wipe. During the Niconico Chokaigi event held in Japan recently, Yoshi-P mentioned that while there are some concerns about the possibility of players abusing the cooldown reset, that they are actively looking into this.

We'll be sure to follow-up once we have more information.

[Velhart]

Hey everyone,

The dev. team is aware that there is a large demand for cooldowns to reset after a wipe. During the Niconico Chokaigi event held in Japan recently, Yoshi-P mentioned that while there are some concerns about the possibility of players abusing the cooldown reset, that they are actively looking into this.

We'll be sure to follow-up once we have more information.

This really should be a high priority for the team. It is a real time waster when we have to wait for really long cooldowns to finish just so we can have another go just to wipe quickly again in progression raiding. I even hold some abilities back during certain points so we don't have to wait for it while in the learning process. This is a major flaw in dungeons/trials/raids.

[Kit-Kat]

Hey everyone,

The dev. team is aware that there is a large demand for cooldowns to reset after a wipe. During the Niconico Chokaigi event held in Japan recently, Yoshi-P mentioned that while there are some concerns about the possibility of players abusing the cooldown reset, that they are actively looking into this.

We'll be sure to follow-up once we have more information.

But that doesn't make sense. What is there to abuse? You use a high cooldown reset, enter a dungeon to reset it, but what do you abuse it on? who actually cares about world monsters to save/reset cooldowns for them? dungeons? by the time you get to use that skill on important scenarios, your skill would already be up. There is no scenario that makes it abusable other than it being useful on raids. And by the way, SSS already resets cooldowns, I don't see why they're still holding back the idea of actual raiding scene cooldown reset.

[Alistaire]

SSS already resets cooldowns

Exactly. If there was a possible abuse out of this people would have already done it, and would still do it thru SSS if it were implemented in raids.

[Cnidarian]

Exactly. If there was a possible abuse out of this people would have already done it, and would still do it thru SSS if it were implemented in raids.

People do abuse the reset on SSS already. The difference is that abusing this on SSS doesn't have an impact anyone outside of the person cheating the system. Just because you do not know of the methods to abuse it, does not mean it doesn't exist. There are a few videos that have been published where this abuse was obvious (i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

[Noxifer]

(i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

Well... a wipe (i.e. death) removes all buffs anyway, so...?

[Cnidarian]

Well... a wipe (i.e. death) removes all buffs anyway, so...?

I suggest you read the entire thread, as others have provided hypothetical situations in which a boss wipe does not necessarily equate to a full raid wipe. Granted those are hypothetical situations, the Devs would have to account for their possibility when implementing a cooldown reset. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cooldown reset after a wipe as it's annoying having to wait. But, I'd rather they did it in a way that prevents it being abused instead of just doing it and fixing the abuse after the fact.

[Noxifer]

I suggest you read the entire thread, as others have provided hypothetical situations in which a boss wipe does not necessarily equate to a full raid wipe. Granted those are hypothetical situations, the Devs would have to account for their possibility when implementing a cooldown reset. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cooldown reset after a wipe as it's annoying having to wait. But, I'd rather they did it in a way that prevents it being abused instead of just doing it and fixing the abuse after the fact.

and yet others have provided solutions to those hypothetical situations (as in, don't combine the cooldown reset with boss reset, but with the reviving; that way only the people who actually engaged the boss and died would "benefit" from it).

Edit: Reviving at start, that is. Not being Raised. So in case of a "partial wipe", you couldn't have someone raise them to just outside to save them the run back. If you did, they'd have cooldowns on any CDs they'd used AND have the rez debuff.

[Gokuhan]

People do abuse the reset on SSS already. The difference is that abusing this on SSS doesn't have an impact anyone outside of the person cheating the system. Just because you do not know of the methods to abuse it, does not mean it doesn't exist. There are a few videos that have been published where this abuse was obvious (i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

So what if people are "abusing" this and double dipping. It's a single player dps meter and has zero impact on any actual raids. People only hurt themselves by inflating their own numbers as they will be weaker in an actual raid.
Even if this is a problem or a concern that it could be abused in actual raids, the devs could have all magic/skill based buffs stripped when entering these areas.

[Cnidarian]

So what if people are "abusing" this and double dipping. It's a single player dps meter and has zero impact on any actual raids. People only hurt themselves by inflating their own numbers as they will be weaker in an actual raid.
Even if this is a problem or a concern that it could be abused in actual raids, the devs could have all magic/skill based buffs stripped when entering these areas.

Sigh, I suggest you read what that post was in relation to. In fact, I'm a little confused at your entire post since you essentially rephrased everything I stated in an effort to counter my point? My post was in regards to someone stating that since SSS resets all cooldowns, if the possibility of abuse was present, people would already be abusing it. My post stated that people do in fact abuse the cooldown reset and then I go into stating essentially everything you said in the first half of your post.