The cooldown reset on A8s is unbearable

[Tigerlilley]

Trying to learn first phase on this fight (and any fights but this one especially) its hugely demoralizing when over a 3rd of the raid time is standing there with thumbs up butts waiting for CDs.

I've heard of groups having to change their entire strategy if they involved HG or Living Dead since the cooldown reset is just unbearable.

Its so frustrating having get to together 8 from all around the world to spend so much time just standing looking at the boss waiting.

CD reset exists in SSS there is literally no reason SE can't take the time to implement this HUGE quality of life upgrade in its end game.

[LucentLagombi]

Yeah, it's been pretty awful lately. I get that it's probably an effort to extend raid longevity and not fixing it won't make me drop my sub but still... Just sucks to see a fix literally in the same zone as the entrance just be completely ignored.

[Nekodar]

Do you really need HG/Livind Dead that early?
Maybe work out other strategies. And since it's that early in the fight, learn the mechanics first, then concentrate on optimizing for high dps.

The reason why they don't want to reset cooldowns has been explained as it could be exploited somehow. It hasn't been detailed more than that.

While it can be annoying, it gives you time to reflect and discuss what to do next attempt.

There is also a risk that cooldown reset on wipe leads to situations where you intentionally wipe because you didn't get the perfect opener.

[YukiKoneko]

Fortunately, SE has been pretty tough on players who do exploit the system; even to the degree of, just because they hadn't previously announced "doing X, Y, Z is considered cheating", it's still considered cheating, and they have punished raiders who took advantage of them retroactively.

That being said, I think they could make some type of compromise. For example, what about halving the remaining timers on cooldowns upon full raid wipe and field reset. Think of it this way too SE, how much more gil would you remove from the economy by allowing us raiders to die sooner due to repair costs. See, it's a win-win.

[randysquirrel]

it could be exploited somehow

How?
How can they feasibly believe it is better to deny this QOL improvement in case someone does something? It seems to be their default approach to a lot of things, denying things just in case people abuse them or whatever. And then when they do release content, it contains mechanics that can be cheesed anyway, such as T2 and A4S.

I actually can't think of a genuine way people could abuse the fact they start every boss encounter with all their CDs available... we do it anyway, just by waiting.

Why not implement this QOL change, and IF it is abused either take action against those individuals, or at worst, revert to what we have now. At least then the playerbase would only have itself to blame. The current head-in-the-sand approach, hoping people will stop asking, even though they are yet to come up with a single valid reason, has long since past being acceptable

[Tigerlilley]

Do you really need HG/Livind Dead that early?
Maybe work out other strategies. And since it's that early in the fight, learn the mechanics first, then concentrate on optimizing for high dps.

The reason why they don't want to reset cooldowns has been explained as it could be exploited somehow. It hasn't been detailed more than that.

While it can be annoying, it gives you time to reflect and discuss what to do next attempt.

There is also a risk that cooldown reset on wipe leads to situations where you intentionally wipe because you didn't get the perfect opener.

The fact that we have to change strategy because the wait time makes these actions unfeasible is ridiculous. There is nothing left to reflect and discuss when everyone knows what to do and just needs the chance to practice it.

[Kitfox]

Not only would CD reset be a blessing for raiding, but those times when DF pops while outside town and you switch class for it, all your stuff is gonna be on cooldown. Entering an instance and getting those reset would be great. I guess the whole reseting thing could be used to quickly reset CDs for openworld use (undersized solo enter→exit), but then again all relevant content is pretty much instanced so I don't think that'd make a huge difference.

[Jpec07]

I think a huge part of the problem is that a lot of strats are relying on Living Dead, Hallowed Ground, and Holmgang to allow healers to eke out some more damage beyond what the group would be capable of - basically, groups rely on these moves to make up for their own low gear threshold.

A group in ~215 gear is going to need every scrap of DPS they can get, and will need to rely on these "oh shit" buttons to succeed.

A group in ~230 gear is going to have a little more wiggle room, and might be able to get away with strats that don't use them.

My first A5S was with a PUG, and most of the players hadn't done savage before. The group leader had set the iLvl requirement at 215, and we ran into the exact issue described. Our DPS was just slightly too low, and we would get to 5% on the first miniboss before wiping. But because each attempt got that far, and because our strat relied on Hallowed Ground, we needed to wait 7 minutes between each attempt.

I can understand wanting to discourage its use like that, but groups are doing it anyway, and the restriction is making this part of the game seem extremely archaic and monotonous.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

I wish they reset cooldowns when you both enter an instance and when you release from a full party wipe (basically when the boss resets) it would solve a lot of issues with raiding, one of the reasons I didn't like raiding was purely because of cooldown reset, me and my group had like 2 hours to raid, a good chunk of that was waiting for stuff to be back up.

Basically, it would be an excellent QoL addition with no real drawbacks, maybe it could be exploited to reset long cool-downs on the overworld (like entering an instance with friends and leaving quickly to get CD's back) but come on, I doubt that can be exploited for anything worth a damn.

[Pells]

... (basically when the boss resets) ...

So.... Everybody buffs up, you send the sacrifice in to start a fight with the boss while everybody else waits outside the arena. He dies, boss resets, cooldowns reset, _AND_ you still have your buffs up?