The arrogance of some people

[FabricioRF]

[Ashkendor]

I think people need to understand that DPSing isn't a healers job.

DPSing as a healer (and keeping the party alive) makes you a good healer. Not DPSing means you're doing your job, but you could do better.

I'd tend to agree. Bad healers let people die and leave debuffs all over. A healer that isn't letting people die and is keeping debuffs off the party is at least meeting the minimum requirements for their job. Healers that DPS are going above and beyond. I can't tell you how many times I've looked over parse numbers after a dungeon clear or a trial and actually done more DPS than HPS and of the healing I actually do, 60-70% of it comes from Eos and most of the rest is precast Adloquiums. xD

[Settiesama]

Why oh why did you cast Raise on this thread ;; Stone it back to it's grave.

[Taramin]

Oh not this again. Ok, to settle this: Healers who don't DPS are fine, consider it a bonus if we do, dungeons aren't built with our deeps in mind, and if enrage timers are being hit, or enemies are taking forever to die, if your class icon is red, YOU ARE THE ONE SLACKING, NOT US.

I DPS every now and then, but sometimes I'm tired, and really couldn't be bothered to stance dance my way to a 3 minute faster dungeon clear.

[Duuude007]

Excuse me it is not being lazy. I took healer to heal not DPS. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class. If I keep everyone alive then I am doing my job.

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

Because they cannot heal party members- their roles are different but also, just like yours, not black and white. If you aren't using your abilities to the fullest potential for party progression, someone else is being forced to make up for your shortcomings (re: doing your work) and it ultimately undermines progression efficiency.

Being a team player means doing every facet of your job. That is why attentive dps still buff the rest of the party when appropriate, why attentive casters still heal or res when appropriate, and why an attentive tank heals or switches to dps mode when appropriate. Because they can. And because they should. Just like you can and should, when appropriate.

Sure, there are perfectly good examples where damage is so intense that you are expected to heal through the content and worry less about damage output. That does not, however, mean that you are excused from putting out every shred of damage your GCD still allows, based on the enemy with whom you are engaged.

"If you can lean, you can clean."

[Whiteroom]

Why oh why did you cast Raise on this thread ;; Stone it back to it's grave.

And they said nothing at all worth raising it for either, just nothing...

[Dorander]

Since this thread originally came up, if I find I'm in a run with a healer who just stands around and waits for hp to drop, I don't dodge. I'll eat every single attack the mobs throw at me. If they want to ONLY heal and not help make my job as a dps easier, then I absolutely refuse to make theirs easier by dodging the avoidable damage. Plain and simple. Dps or not, it's your choice. Dodging or not, is mine.

[FinalWolf]

Since this thread originally came up, if I find I'm in a run with a healer who just stands around and waits for hp to drop, I don't dodge. I'll eat every single attack the mobs throw at me. If they want to ONLY heal and not help make my job as a dps easier, then I absolutely refuse to make theirs easier by dodging the avoidable damage. Plain and simple. Dps or not, it's your choice. Dodging or not, is mine.

The worst lazy healers are the ones who literally jump around the party doing nothing waiting for my HP to drop.

[Wildsprite]

DPSing as a healer (and keeping the party alive) makes you a good healer. Not DPSing means you're doing your job, but you could do better.

this isn't always true, sometimes the group just isn't good enough in some way for the healer to cleric stance over and DPS because they have their hands full with healing. you might think this is rare and really it should be but I see this a lot in DF randoms.

[AlphaFox]

The worst lazy healers are the ones who literally jump around the party doing nothing waiting for my HP to drop.

That's why we give em a reason, either way, they are gonna work :3