The arrogance of some people

[SpookyGhost]

You don't rely on healer's DPS for speedruns

I guess it depends on your definition of a speedrun... o_o

[AeraLure]

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

Oh come now, that's a silly argument. A DPS cannot heal for anything effectively. Their heals lack the potency to have any use. They should not also interrupt their rotation with a heal since it would incur a hefty loss of DPS in breaking the rotation. I have only rarely seen a non-healer heal possibly ease a touchy situation, and that heal came from a tank, who can actually spare the time. A healer, on the other hand, not only has the down time in almost all content, but their DPS is actually effective.

[Ashkendor]

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

I actually use defensive cooldowns and self-heal all the time as DPS (bloodbath, second wind). I'm constantly using some kind of self-healing on WAR as well and have been known to drop a Clemency as a PLD if it's clear the healer is struggling for one reason or another. BLM/SMN heals don't scale up with our increased HP pools, so in 3.x content they're an absolute joke. For all the 500-600 hp they restore per cure, casters are better off just trying to finish off whatever the party is fighting. Judicious application of other skills that help the party like Virus, E4E, Apocatastasis, Manawall, and Manaward are encouraged, however.

With that said, a healer that just sits there topping me off every time I hit 90% makes me facepalm. As tank, I actively use my cooldowns and self-healing skills to mitigate damage and allow the healer windows for DPS. When I look over and see the healer just standing there, jumping in circles, doing dance emotes, or spamming stupid picture macros in the party, it makes me wonder just why the hell I'm bothering to do so. It's not gonna kill you to toss out some dots or a couple of holy. I'll gladly watch my HP drop into the 25-30% range if it means the healer is making an effort to throw out some DPS. I won't kick a healer from the party for not DPS'ing, but unless they are new to the class and/or the game they probably are not going to get my commendation.

When I heal, I practically live in Cleric Stance. Standing there waiting for the tank to take damage is boring. x_x

[Andrea]

Excuse me it is not being lazy. I took healer to heal not DPS. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class. If I keep everyone alive then I am doing my job.

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

If you know the content and are standing around for 30 seconds between heal and not helping dps yes, you are being lazy.

[LazyMemories]

If you know the content and are standing around for 30 seconds between heal and not helping dps yes, you are being lazy.

Not lazy, tank always needs a cure no matter what hp at unless 100%.So I'll cure 1 for days till I get a free cure 2 and then pop regen but a heal is a heal

[Andrea]

Not lazy, tank always needs a cure no matter what hp at unless 100%.So I'll cure 1 for days till I get a free cure 2 and then pop regen but a heal is a heal

I can confirm tanks do not always need cures. People in this game do not need to be at 100% health, Sounds like you are overhealing which is bad in itself.

No other class in the game gets to stand around afk for 10-20 seconds between spells. Theres a reason healers get so many dps skills.

[Ashkendor]

Not lazy, tank always needs a cure no matter what hp at unless 100%.So I'll cure 1 for days till I get a free cure 2 and then pop regen but a heal is a heal

As a career tank, let me say something here. Tanks aren't made of glass. We don't just break the second our HP drop below 100%. Tanks are actually damn hard to kill in this game as long as they are using their skills effectively. If your tank is bad or poorly geared then no, you probably will not have time to DPS. But if you have a tank that's actively mitigating damage (to the extent that you can in this game, anyway) why not use that time to do something besides stand there waiting for them to get a scrape?

Are you trying to troll right now lol?
If you're carrying high elixir or ethers then something is wrong with your group. Either you're over healing or worrying to much and only using cure 2.
I can understand if the tank is rushing and makes no time for mp to regenerate but that's it those ethers are garbage throw away stuff

Wrong. Good healers are prepared for many eventualities, and thus carry items to recoup mana. I make Max-Ethers for my static's WHM. Having the item and not needing it is better than needing the item and only having an empty inventory slot.

[azlewood]

Excuse me it is not being lazy. I took healer to heal not DPS. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class. If I keep everyone alive then I am doing my job.

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

as a tank i range dps too!

[Kyuuen]

Excuse me it is not being lazy. I took healer to heal not DPS. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class. If I keep everyone alive then I am doing my job.

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

Perhaps not exclusively, but if it's needed it should be used. If it's in your tool kit it should be used.

[Zojha]

If it's in your tool kit it should be used.

One Ilm punch all the way!