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    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    No, males appearing in clothes for women is. If you want to wear clothes for women, play a woman. Bustiers are designed for women with their anatomy taken into account. Fishnet stockings are for women. Panties are for women.
    No, the phrase should be, "If you want to play a woman, play a woman." Me, and others, play a male character because we prefer the looks (and/or voices) of them. That doesn't (and shouldn't!) prevent us from appreciating some of the currently female-only outfits. And it certainly doesn't/shouldn't prevent us from feeling slighted due to all the female/unisex glamour outfit pairs. Not when the entire idea behind gender selection from Yoshi's side has been "the gender of your character should make no difference when playing the game" (an early statement I read during ARR beta regarding male and female characters having the same starting stats).

    Yes, brassieres are intended to support the female bust. (Bustier is merely a term coined for non-boned overbust corsets, afaik, and corsets exist for both genders.) And... apart from maybe, potentially, the fluffiest male roegadyn possible, no male characters have man-boobs. So where female characters get bras, male characters get naked chest. (Or chestguards or heartguards, in case of armour.)

    Fishnet stockings are... for people with shaved legs. IMO. (On an amusing note, I heard that most legs advertising stockings/pantyhose, where you can't see the whole person... are male legs ^^; )

    Panties... Yes, I'll agree that the word is associated with female underwear. But there is male underwear that resembles "panties" closely enough to make the distinction a matter of semantics. Same as how women have boxer shorts, despite those originally being male-only underwear (irl). I don't think there are any items in game that are called "panties" (if there are, please enlighten me), so it doesn't matter anyway.

    I don't think (and I doubt there are that many who think so) that if SE decides to make, say, the bunny chest/legs/feet unisex that they're going to make them identical in appearance when male characters wear them. Just look at the soldiery caster legs. They're fishnets for female characters, weird tights for male characters. In fact, many of us have argued that a perfectly reasonable male equivalent would be to take inspiration from the Chippendale dancing group:


    Similar sexually teasing image for women people attracted to the male body as the playboy bunny has for people attracted to the female body. Make the "bustier" a simple collar+bowtie, and while there already are several trousers that would suit to pair with it, I personally would be okay with another pair of almost-identical trousers to complete the set. Gloves and bunny ears could be kept as-is.
    (I disagree with the one suggesting that the collar+bowtie should be a neck item -- we already have those in the Moogle ribbons and later recolors, and the main issue with those is that accessories can't be dyed. If it's kept as a chestpiece, you'd be able to dye it into the colour you want.)
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    Last edited by Noxifer; 04-28-2016 at 11:44 PM.