question how far is to far

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Can't say I'm fond of the Jok swimsuits. Why does your ken doll need to be a flaming diva? This isn't real life, characters aren't born with gender confusion they're male or female and the eorzean style based on NPC's is pretty clear cut.

So Eorzeans don't swim? Or if they do they do so fully clothed? How does wearing a fairly common style bathing suit constitute being a "flaming diva"? Why is it ok for a female to wear a bathing suit but not a male? What does wearing a bathing suit have to do with "gender confusion". Are the npc's wearing subligar's "confused" too?

[16bitBounty]

Swimsuits and whatever males got are completely different. I work at a pool.

[Laerune]

Swimsuits and whatever males got are completely different. I work at a pool.

But this is Eorzea and not the real life. I get that the way people are raised, they might be uncomfortable and its your right to be like that and express this opinion. But denying others from wearing what they want is odd, very odd. I dislike the bikini wearing miqotes or the ones that try to be as slutty as they can. But I do not want to take this option away from them, because it makes them happy.

Happiness, something that alot of gamers do not understand. So what if I dont like slutty female miqotes, this does not mean I should deny them their choice. I ignore them and move on, I wish many did this aswell, instead of comming to the request threads and complaining against the choice to wear what people want to wear.

Let players wear what they want, if you are bothered with it, ignore and log off, because something is very wrong, when you are uncomfortable with the way a digital character looks like.

All of this was not directed towards you, Alyssin.

[Noxifer]

Swimsuits and whatever males got are completely different. I work at a pool.

Maybe you should look again. O.o Sure, many guys these days use bathing shorts and similar things, but speedos are still a thing ^^; Especially amongst competition swimmers, IIRC (unless they've recently gone to favouring longer legs on their swim pants).

[Remus]

I find it amusing because this is the first MMO I have played where people complain they can't wear some female gear on males. Guess it's just the type of player base this game has. I spoke to some of my fc members about this and we came to agreement where if you want female looking gear just play female. Honestly in my personal opinion I see this as a waste of development time. Comparing this to raiding is just silly. Yes raiding is done by a minority i can say for sure a much larger amount people care about raiding than wearing female clothes on a male character. They can see the number of people doing raids and they can say we can make this because for the amount of people doing it this won't be a waste of development time.

In this case it just feels like a very small and when i say small i mean tiny part of the player base is just being very loud about it and it just comes across as quite a few. This just my opinion anyway and im not a fan of what they are doing. I won't say not to do it its their choice. I can already seeing it ending where they add it people wear it to be a special snowflake for a bit and then change back to their old glamour always happens then they realize they didn't really need it.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Swimsuits and whatever males got are completely different. I work at a pool.

Then you clearly need to broaden your exposure to clothing styles. Speedo's are common as hell swimwear for men. Heck just google the Australian Men's Olympic Swim Team and you'll see. The problem here is you're using your own preconceived notions of what is and isn't appropriate for genders to wear to determine who should and shouldn't be allowed to wear what. Eorzeans do not necessarily share our world view of what constitutes acceptable fashion.

[16bitBounty]

Remus gets it

Speedos are still worn yes. Compression shorts are also quite popular.

Not a speedo

[Eul]

Remus gets it

Speedos are still worn yes. Compression shorts are also quite popular.

Not a speedo

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

^that's what I'm talking about.

Not a speedo

Actually yea it is... with a few extra straps, for sure, but it really is just a speedo. And what's wrong with it as it is? You're a male playing a female character... but the sight of a guy strutting around in a fancy speedo makes you uncomfortable and incites you to call him a "flaming diva". The fact that this bothers you just makes you seem really insecure to me.

[16bitBounty]

No, panties and fishnet stockings incite me to calling him a "flaming diva."

Hahaha, Eul