Request: Remove iLVL requirement for undersized party or pre-made groups

[Ilitsa]

Can this thread die yet?

If someone can't meet the minimum, craft them stuff so they can. There is no minimum for current savage raids, and if you want to go lower than minimum, change your gear in the instance. That's all there is to it.

Can you just not come into a thread you don't want to partake in a discussion with? It's not rocket science. And that's not an extremely viable option either (the crafting bit, I mean) as not everyone has access to that kind of stuff, and, looking at the market board, and this may come as a shock to you, but, the 180 crafted coat for nin(griffin leather coat of scouting) has NEVER been on the mb before on Siren. The sky pirate's jacket (185) is 1 mil. Not everyone has crafter friends/access to crafting that stuff themselves, therefore that lame excuse you gave has zero viability.

[FoxyAreku]

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Gathering mats and making a party finder for someone to craft for you isn't hard.

Made a full tank 220 set without spending a dime. At worst you would have to tip someone, the only even remotely hard material is the frost cotton bolls/smith ore/etc, and most people should be able to afford that if they can't gather as it's hardly super expensive. There's literally no excuse for someone to not be able to get crafted 220s with how incredibly easy they are aside from laziness, they use most of the same mats as level 55 gear for goodness sake! >_>

Also I'll come into a thread if I want, I'm just pointing out that this thread has been nothing but 4 pages of the same people saying the same things over and over. There's no reason for it to continue, the lvl requirement isn't going to go anywhere.

Also:

Weekly b-rank hunt bill yields 100 centurio seals.
Daily trash hunt bills yield 110 centurio seals.

That's 870 centurio seals without touching a or s ranks.

A full set of 170 gear costs what? 920 seals? How is that not a viable upgrade method? Because it takes a week of play to accomplish?

Crafting rant aside, this is also true. You can also get a full esoteric set in less than a week too which would set you at i200 and good enough for all content in the game that has a requirement. Heck, even less than a day if you really commit....

[Xavikon]

Gathering mats and making a party finder for someone to craft for you isn't hard.

Made a full tank 220 set without spending a dime. At worst you would have to tip someone, the only even remotely hard material is the frost cotton bolls/smith ore/etc, and most people should be able to afford that if they can't gather as it's hardly super expensive. There's literally no excuse for someone to not be able to get crafted 220s with how incredibly easy they are aside from laziness, they use most of the same mats as level 55 gear for goodness sake! >_>

Crafting rant aside, this is also true. You can also get a full esoteric set in less than a week too which would set you at i200 and good enough for all content in the game that has a requirement. Heck, even less than a day if you really commit....

The question isn't the difficulty, it is necessity. Why is it necessary to put up these roadblocks to new players that have older players willing to carry them?