Request: Remove iLVL requirement for undersized party or pre-made groups

[Xavikon]

I feel like this was a thing back in ARR and seems to have gone away in HW, but please allow the undersize option, or add another option, that allows those without the minium iLVL to go into a raid. Additionally, it would be great if this requirement was lifted when the party was fully pre-made.

[Nekodar]

I feel like this was a thing back in ARR and seems to have gone away in HW, but please allow the undersize option, or add another option, that allows those without the minium iLVL to go into a raid. Additionally, it would be great if this requirement was lifted when the party was fully pre-made.

Since you can change gear as soon as you're inside, what exactly would this solve?
Is it just for fun? For selling runs? Gearing up new members?

[Xavikon]

Primarily for newbies is why I noticed this.

[Reynhart]

So that one high level character could carry up to 3 bots and gave them access to Ishgard ?
Please, no.

[lvlagmarink]

So that one high level character could carry up to 3 bots and gave them access to Ishgard ?
Please, no.

Why would botters getting afraid of ilvl requirements when they have money to burn to buy mats/crafted gear/npc gears? This does not seem to be a plausible case in entirely benefiting botters..

[Reynhart]

Why would botters getting afraid of ilvl requirements when they have money to burn to buy mats/crafted gear/npc gears?

So, we should reduce the cost ?

Again, what purpose do such a feature would offer besides allowing to carry undergeared character ?
I see this already, finish 3.0 storyline naked, then you'll be rushed through Gordias and Midas by seven people to jump right past ilvl200. And some FC will make millions by selling those kind of run.

[Fynlar]

Yeah, the item level thing should only apply to having to grab people off the duty finder, just like enforcing the 1/1/2 or 2/2/4 party setups. Premades should not be subject to any of that stuff. If PF groups want to have an item level requirement for entry they can set one themselves.

So that one high level character could carry up to 3 bots and gave them access to Ishgard ?
Please, no.

Oh, please. You act like that's a hard thing to do for someone who already knows how to play the game

(presumably, if someone is dedicated enough to the game to run 4 accounts at the same time, they probably know how to play the game on at least some fundamental level)

[Reynhart]

Oh, please. You act like that's a hard thing to do for someone who already knows how to play the game

It's not hard so we should...ease it...somehow ?

This feature's only purpose would be to allow carrying people. How else would you justify asking for acces in a Duty for wich you're clearly undergeared ?

And I'm pretty sure it would be super fun to see all those gathering bot flooding in HW zones, right ?

[Xavikon]

Reynhart,

There will be multiple responses due to the character limitation of a single response.

I don't really want to distract from the original request, but I feel like you're derailing the discussion already. RMT and bots exist in FFXIV, and they will continue to exist as long as people play the game. As far as your concern about making it easier for RMT to level their bots, I don't know that you really are comprehending what goes into leveling a bot.

Basically, these companies, or individuals in some cases, write scripts/programs that have "memorized" the dungeon paths and the exact set of key presses required to complete them. They then set up numerous servers with virtual machines that run hundreds of instances of the game. Finally, they run the script and walk away, or perhaps have maybe one person managing hundreds of accounts at a time in the event that the script or software breaks.

[Xavikon]

Removing the iLVL requirement from pre-made groups doesn't make this task any easier for them. Typically you will see a 'bot group' as all the same classes, all the same level and all the same(or similar) gear. This is because the scripts and planning that goes into running these bots assumes NO variation. Everything should happen in a predictable manner so the human supervisor of the bots needs to interact with them as little as possible. To suddenly change it so you take one geared character and many undergeared characters would require rewriting of software/scripts that have been working for years now for little to no reasonable gain or improvement in efficiency.

I understand your frustration with bots, they are aggravating. However, let the task force do their job and track down the RMT groups. Let the designers create an enjoyable experience for the rest of us.