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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Ninja Lv 90
    If they want another tank, they can add something like Barbarian or Warlock. No need to waste Samurai for it.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    If they want another tank, they can add something like Barbarian or Warlock. No need to waste Samurai for it.
    You know I admit that it would be a touch off the norm (nothing wrong with that) but I would actually like a Caster Tank, perhaps with a trait they are not able to be interrupted except for skills that do so such as stun, paralyze and silence.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    If they want another tank, they can add something like Barbarian or Warlock. No need to waste Samurai for it.
    i never understand why all this hate for the tank role.
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i never understand why all this hate for the tank role.
    It's not so much "tank hate" as it is "Oh my glob, not this again" because the more annoying vocal minority resort to the tired hat of "IF THEY ADDED MORE TANKS/HEALERS THERE WILL BE MORE PLAYERS PLAYING TANKS/HEALERS" when that has never been the case. Sure, the addition of more tank/healing classes DO provide a bump in population for those roles, but most players are going to stick to being damage dealers for one reason or another.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    It's not so much "tank hate" as it is "Oh my glob, not this again" because the more annoying vocal minority resort to the tired hat of "IF THEY ADDED MORE TANKS/HEALERS THERE WILL BE MORE PLAYERS PLAYING TANKS/HEALERS" when that has never been the case. Sure, the addition of more tank/healing classes DO provide a bump in population for those roles, but most players are going to stick to being damage dealers for one reason or another.
    Yep it is not the issue of not having enough Tank class but that Tank Role is generally less rewarding and satisfying when the cons of playing a tank role out ways the pros.


    Pros
    - Shorter DF waiting time
    - less people trying to get the same gear in the group.
    - Tank Job is higher in demand for groups.

    Cons
    - People expect a lot more from you
    - If you die the group dies with you
    - If something goes wrong then expect to be blamed
    - Missing Tank mechanics is less forgiving than other roles
    - Keeping up Aggro when teams are randomly hitting targets without keeping track on their own aggro
    - Gear is expected to be up to date far more than other Jobs due to Defense and HP demand.
    - people expect you to Speed Run dungeons or else you're considered a "Noob"
    - Certain Tank players have caused a bad reputation among the Tank population for being "Too demanding" and "Impatient" as there are Tank players who would generally instantly leave a DF group if there is 1 new player thus the burden of proving to others you are not like those players.
    - Demand for the Tank Player to already know mechanics a head of a DPS and Healer Job is higher as they must meet demand to stay alive more.
    - People are less forgiving on New Player Tanks.

    The introduction of more Tank Jobs will certainly not increase the tank population as much as people may believe as the increase in population is simply a short term result of people being interested in the Job itself and not the Role of the Job.

    Once players have experience the Job itself then they experience the burdens of being a Tank Job which is where people make the choice if they will stay to play a Tank Role or move into DPS or Healer Job.

    Few people will accept the burden of a Tank Job but they also must not let it become a tool that they can use to threating DF groups they join just because they are a Tank Job as there still remain plenty of people who will abuse their Role as a Tank to threaten DF groups to meet their demands. However, DPS and Healers must also remember not to treat all Tanks as these "Improper Tanks" just because they are not meeting their expectations on what a Tank Player should be or what they would have done if they were a Tank Job
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 04-26-2016 at 05:03 AM.

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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
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    tank or not i go to play the class and depend of the gamplay i have fun or not, im multidisciplinar player i don't stuck in a role and say this other is boring they don't deserve a samurái or drk, un this game both roles are damage dealers but diferents thinks to be focus, i don't want samurái for get more tanks population, i want it because can be the perfect second tank with high dps like warrior the perfect new OT, df don't go to change but none jobs become a waste only for be X role, thats very rude.

    In fact im playing like AST in df a lot of times and normal midas to because i like so much the job and i never play so much like a healer with mi alt before the expansión, and now i enjoy it, im the person how think is you like the job the role is secundary.
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    Last edited by shao32; 04-26-2016 at 10:24 AM.