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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    My golden rule is 50%. When the tank tips that low, I'll switch out of stance and heal them. There are a few exceptions, such as mobs which I know can hit for 60%+ but those are thankfully rare. The main reason I choose 50% is because if I'm caught on timer for Cleric stance (5 seconds recast) or otherwise between skills it gives me some time to heal before it gets critical. Trying to quick-swap when the tank is in dire straits is never a good idea, since even the best of us can be caught short.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Eos and Selene can more easily solo heal the current experts than the past 5 dungeons.
    As a scholar myself, I can tell you that this is absolute tripe. No scholar worth a damn uses only their pets to heal in anything except <50 content. For a start, Eos and Selene only start healing when the tank is around 80%, secondly Embrace's healing strength doesn't even match up to a basic cure/physick spell.

    Even assuming you micro-manage every single skill in addition to being a perma DPS, unless your tank only pulls one group at a time (which realistically never happens unless they're new), there will be more damage than your pet can keep up with. It'd be like a weakened WHM that never uses Cure II and relies on Medica II regens instead.
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    As a scholar myself, I can tell you that this is absolute tripe. No scholar worth a damn uses only their pets to heal in anything except <50 content. For a start, Eos and Selene only start healing when the tank is around 80%, secondly Embrace's healing strength doesn't even match up to a basic cure/physick spell.

    Even assuming you micro-manage every single skill in addition to being a perma DPS, unless your tank only pulls one group at a time (which realistically never happens unless they're new), there will be more damage than your pet can keep up with. It'd be like a weakened WHM that never uses Cure II and relies on Medica II regens instead.
    Eh that isn't true. I've definitely done expert roulette with just the pet healing. This is very tank dependent (size of pulls + cooldown mitigation). Larger pulls usually mean that I need to throw in 1-2 heals per pull, but this is also mitigation dependent. Embrace's cure matches well when you throw up Rouse and even moreso when you add in Fey Illum.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    For a start, Eos and Selene only start healing when the tank is around 80%, secondly Embrace's healing strength doesn't even match up to a basic cure/physick spell.

    Even assuming you micro-manage every single skill in addition to being a perma DPS, unless your tank only pulls one group at a time (which realistically never happens unless they're new), there will be more damage than your pet can keep up with. It'd be like a weakened WHM that never uses Cure II and relies on Medica II regens instead.
    You mean.... there are Scholars... that don't micromanage Embrace a tank when they are above 80%... I didn't think.. I didn't think that was an option. xD jk

    I'll lustrate for a tank who doesn't pop their invincibility buffs (or drks that do.) for the pull from the start of ampa expert to butterflies. Worst case (bad tank) lustrate, adlo, emergency tactics adlo then back to cs. Virus, E4E, Selene , preshields, and rouse are usually enough, with a weaved lustrate or indom then straight back to cleric stance, if it's 100% necessary.For extra dps I'll even have enough time to dissipate Selene, in most cases, towards the end of each boss. Selene does a pretty great job keeping up, because of all the cast bar animations/mechanics most bosses do. She esunas and like I've said can even silence in a few cases (interrupt macro does help but you have to spam it.)

    Lustrate is used much more frequently than adlo or physick especially (almost never) if I do actually need to heal during combat.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 04-23-2016 at 06:41 AM.