People who ignore their threat guage

[Ragology]

No. I am not there to hold their hand and play mother. I can hold hate just fine if I wanted to, but if they see me and the other DPS/ healer attacking the same target and consistently go after another, eventually I'm just going to leave them to it. DPS have one job and that is to attack, and if they're so inept they can't even focus their attacks on the right monster then I'm not going to cover for them. Terrible DPS get enough of a free pass in this game as it is.

There are many times when I don't want to waste a combo finisher on a mob with low health and so I switch targets. Usually though when I'm attacking a target that the tank isn't, its because I see it as more of a threat. Like Exploding enemies, bee that use final sting or mobs with AOE attacks that I can stun.

For the times that I'm attacking the wrong mob because I'm being tunnel visioned, I try to switch to the Tanks target but the tank, being a responsible player, switches to the target I was just attacking and so the two of us are on different targets again. We both wait to see if the other will switch targets and then we both switch at once. Makes it look like I'm trying to avoid the tank when I'm actually trying to sync up with them.

[Lunaxia]

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I was talking about trash mobs where it's very obvious who is attacking what, but one of the DPS still fixates on an entirely different target several feet away.

Whether it makes me a "crappy" tank or not, I'm not going out of my way to rescue them when they're not even bothering to do their job right. The Hall of the Novice even teaches about this now.

[Nezkeys79]

Whether it makes me a "crappy" tank or not, I'm not going out of my way to rescue them when they're not even bothering to do their job right. The Hall of the Novice even teaches about this now.

You know...I was interested as to what the hall of novice teaches for healing and dps, because if the extent of the learning is "just keep them alive" meh, or for the dps "use all your strongest attacks whenever it's your job to do as much damage as possible at any given time",,,,meh again.

I'll have to check them both out I guess hopefully they have some sound advice on there

[Lunaxia]

You know...I was interested as to what the hall of novice teaches for healing and dps, because if the extent of the learning is "just keep them alive" meh, or for the dps "use all your strongest attacks whenever it's your job to do as much damage as possible at any given time",,,,meh again.

I'll have to check them both out I guess hopefully they have some sound advice on there

I did HotN on my alt for the gear, it was a while ago now so I can't remember everything but two things I distinctly recall them teaching you is a) avoid AoEs (lol) and b) attack the same target the tank is focusing on.

If it's large enough percentage to warrant all of the posts you make about it then the problem is almost certainly you. I'm aware there are crap players in every role. I see them every day. I've been blamed for pulling too big by DPS that I've out DPS'd in Defiance. Anyway, I'm sticking by what I said.

It's always a WAR...

[Nezkeys79]

I did HotN on my alt for the gear, it was a while ago now so I can't remember everything but two things I distinctly recall them teaching you is a) avoid AoEs (lol) and b) attack the same target the tank is focusing on.

Hmm so sounds like nothing about enmity there then. maybe they should do this...let them start and then if they do anything early have a message pop up saying "seven hells! you attracted attention because you was the first person to take action on the enemy. wait for the tank and watch your enmity bar or else the mobs will turn on you" or something lol. There should also be something in there abut if they do get aggro a message saying "run towards the tank because pray tell he has the tools to save you. If you run away from him it makes it harder for him to save you". "Just remember to always keep an eye on that there guage!". It's a shame if the other jobs aren't getting some sort of tuition, however basic, on enmity control.

It's always a WAR...

Yeah I've noticed that

[Aquaslash]

Hmm so sounds like nothing about enmity there then. maybe they should do this...let them start and then if they do anything early have a message pop up saying "seven hells! you attracted attention because you was the first person to take action on the enemy. wait for the tank and watch your enmity bar or else the mobs will turn on you" or something lol. There should also be something in there abut if they do get aggro a message saying "run towards the tank because pray tell he has the tools to save you. If you run away from him it makes it harder for him to save you". "Just remember to always keep an eye on that there guage!". It's a shame if the other jobs aren't getting some sort of tuition, however basic, on enmity control.



Yeah I've noticed that

Bruh. Have you ever played a DPS? Like ever? The things you suggest would make any DPS a woefully garbage one. We are NOT overflowing with tools to help you keep aggro. Speaking as a DRG main, all I got is elusive jump and that has a 3 minute cooldown. If I rip hate, elusive jump to give it back, and then take hate again because you can't hold aggro, then if you're as well geared as you claim to always be, then you are a bad tank.

Emnity is 100% your problem and yours alone, ESPECIALLY once you get your tank stance. You have the balls to imply that I need to essentially do less DPS, aka be bad at my job just so you can hold hate and do yours? How about you literally git gud.

I know it's rough starting out. I'm just learning WAR, and I lose hate all the time in the early levels. It's not the healers fault, I just need to overpower and flash more...and maybe move flash to the start of my cross class list so I can use it in Satasha and junk. I dunno, I'm still working it out