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  1. #1
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezkeys79 View Post
    You sound like a bandwagoner that adopts the cancerous mentality of some people in DF. Your attitude is that it's ludicrous to suggest the healer or dps may be at fault and automatically start with "you're a failure" or "you can't tank" or "do your job adequately" or "you should be rotating your combos" (which I do btw). Bad players blame tanks for everything. I'm not saying there aren't bad tanks just that the minority of these retard button mashers is enough % to be cancerous and annoying
    The vast majority of dps that don't watch their hate do crap dps anyway, so you shouldn't have issues holding hate over them. That is why the tank is normally and often fairly blamed for being bad.
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    Nezkeys79's Avatar
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    Nez Mcnezza
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    The vast majority of dps that don't watch their hate do crap dps anyway, so you shouldn't have issues holding hate over them. That is why the tank is normally and often fairly blamed for being bad.
    Um when it's a dps who does good damage but still button mashes it's a problem. Plus in certain early dungeons where you only have flash+2 hit combo on gld/pld it turns into a yo yo war of enmity against some dps while you are waiting for hit 2 of your combo and/or flash to be up (I've tested this extensively by hawkeyeing the enmity guage after every action I do and the dps does, and there is literally nothing more optimal you can do than using 2 hit combo and/or flash spam)

    For example:

    Fast Blade>Savage Blade(you're top)
    Fire(dps is top)
    Fast Blade(dps still top)
    Fire(dps still top)
    Savage Blade and Flash (you're top)
    Fire (dps is top again)

    In this scenario there is literally fuck all you can do but watch the yo yo. The only thing that will work is if the dps swaps targets or just stops attacking periodically. Stop acting like enmity is always on the tank 100% in any dungeon and if it comes off them at any time in any dungeon (particularly a low level one) they are a shit tank who fails at their job. It's a cancerous unrealistic notion that other bad players use to cover up when they play bad. Everyone should learn how to control their own threat not just the tank
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    Last edited by Nezkeys79; 04-18-2016 at 12:48 AM.

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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezkeys79 View Post
    Um when it's a dps who does good damage but still button mashes it's a problem. Plus in certain early dungeons where you only have flash+2 hit combo on gld/pld it turns into a yo yo war of enmity while you are waiting for hit 2 and/or flash to be up against some dps (I've tested this extensively by hawkeyeing the enmity guage and there is literally nothing more you can do than using flash with your 2 hit combo)
    Early levels, anyone can tank. Losing threat there is rarely an issue.

    Max levels, you have every single tool you need to hold threat unless you are severely outgeared. In that case, odds are the DPS pulling off you are geared enough to act as pseduo-tanks, so it's rarely an issue there.

    In short: Calm your tits.
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    Nez Mcnezza
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Early levels, anyone can tank. Losing threat there is rarely an issue.

    Max levels, you have every single tool you need to hold threat unless you are severely outgeared. In that case, odds are the DPS pulling off you are geared enough to act as pseduo-tanks, so it's rarely an issue there.

    In short: Calm your tits.
    Meh I always have the strongest gear for my level before joining an instance. Holding hate at 50+ is a joke and the amount of times you will lose hate are very small, and IF you do you will always reclaim it instantly with provoke+scorn+halone on top of the shite you get in the lower dungeons.
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