People who ignore their threat guage

[Lunaxia]

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Option B: Ignore the DPS that keeps attacking a different target to the rest of the party and let the monster eat its face off.

They soon learn.

[Jamillion]

Option B: Ignore the DPS that keeps attacking a different target to the rest of the party and let the monster eat its face off.

They soon learn.

That's called being a crappy tank. I main Warrior and I despise tanks that fail the job they queued for then act like it's not their fault. Mark your targets if you can't hold AOE hate, no one wants to play the guessing game.

[Lunaxia]

That's called being a crappy tank. I main Warrior and I despise tanks that fail the job they queued for then act like it's not their fault. Mark your targets if you can't hold AOE hate, no one wants to play the guessing game.

No. I am not there to hold their hand and play mother. I can hold hate just fine if I wanted to, but if they see me and the other DPS/ healer attacking the same target and consistently go after another, eventually I'm just going to leave them to it. DPS have one job and that is to attack, and if they're so inept they can't even focus their attacks on the right monster then I'm not going to cover for them. Terrible DPS get enough of a free pass in this game as it is.

[Jamillion]

No. I am not there to hold their hand and play mother. I can hold hate just fine if I wanted to, but if they see me and the other DPS/ healer attacking the same target and consistently go after another, eventually I'm just going to leave them to it. DPS have one job and that is to attack, and if they're so inept they can't even focus their attacks on the right monster then I'm not going to cover for them. Terrible DPS get enough of a free pass in this game as it is.

Your job is to have everything hitting you in the face at all times. If you fail at that AND fail at calling a kill order then stop tanking. Literally the only time I've ever had an issue like that is tanking for my FC leader who regularly does 1800 DPS single target since I have to focus her target heavily. And yes, bad DPS DO get enough of a free pass, which is why it should be trivial to hold hate. Now I will say if it's a large pull and one suicidal DPS is only using single target then fine, let it go, but that doesn't seem to be the OPs case going through his forum history.

[Ragology]

No. I am not there to hold their hand and play mother. I can hold hate just fine if I wanted to, but if they see me and the other DPS/ healer attacking the same target and consistently go after another, eventually I'm just going to leave them to it. DPS have one job and that is to attack, and if they're so inept they can't even focus their attacks on the right monster then I'm not going to cover for them. Terrible DPS get enough of a free pass in this game as it is.

There are many times when I don't want to waste a combo finisher on a mob with low health and so I switch targets. Usually though when I'm attacking a target that the tank isn't, its because I see it as more of a threat. Like Exploding enemies, bee that use final sting or mobs with AOE attacks that I can stun.

For the times that I'm attacking the wrong mob because I'm being tunnel visioned, I try to switch to the Tanks target but the tank, being a responsible player, switches to the target I was just attacking and so the two of us are on different targets again. We both wait to see if the other will switch targets and then we both switch at once. Makes it look like I'm trying to avoid the tank when I'm actually trying to sync up with them.

[Lunaxia]

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I was talking about trash mobs where it's very obvious who is attacking what, but one of the DPS still fixates on an entirely different target several feet away.

Whether it makes me a "crappy" tank or not, I'm not going out of my way to rescue them when they're not even bothering to do their job right. The Hall of the Novice even teaches about this now.

[Nezkeys79]

Whether it makes me a "crappy" tank or not, I'm not going out of my way to rescue them when they're not even bothering to do their job right. The Hall of the Novice even teaches about this now.

You know...I was interested as to what the hall of novice teaches for healing and dps, because if the extent of the learning is "just keep them alive" meh, or for the dps "use all your strongest attacks whenever it's your job to do as much damage as possible at any given time",,,,meh again.

I'll have to check them both out I guess hopefully they have some sound advice on there

[Lunaxia]

You know...I was interested as to what the hall of novice teaches for healing and dps, because if the extent of the learning is "just keep them alive" meh, or for the dps "use all your strongest attacks whenever it's your job to do as much damage as possible at any given time",,,,meh again.

I'll have to check them both out I guess hopefully they have some sound advice on there

I did HotN on my alt for the gear, it was a while ago now so I can't remember everything but two things I distinctly recall them teaching you is a) avoid AoEs (lol) and b) attack the same target the tank is focusing on.

If it's large enough percentage to warrant all of the posts you make about it then the problem is almost certainly you. I'm aware there are crap players in every role. I see them every day. I've been blamed for pulling too big by DPS that I've out DPS'd in Defiance. Anyway, I'm sticking by what I said.

It's always a WAR...