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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    Out of all those points, I reckon E4E is the only one that actually stands out, and even then you could argue that AST can counter that and bring their Disable. Having raided with an AST for a while now, I can easily say Cure III is irrelevant. We've never needed it. Not to say it itsn't a great ability, but fights simply aren't so brutal to make Cure III a requirement.

    As we are talking about main healers, even WHM having the best burst DPS comes into question. Firstly, they may not get an opportunity to DPS that much in the first place, and AST has the reliability of their two main DoTs never missing. As for procs, again I hardly ever see ASTs short of MP now with the buffs to LA. Taking all that into consideration I still think it's much more valuable having an AST in the group that can buff everyone and has one of the best healing CDs in this game.
    Disable is nothing like E4E, and I feel you are greatly underestimating the value of Cure III. That said, the more recent raids have not needed it as much, likely due to keep the 3 jobs relevant. In A4, for example, when both healers have to stay away from everyone and both tanks + 2 melee get hit with splash, cure III is amazing. Where I saw it work the best was in T11 when the two adds showed up - and you had the 3 physical DPS get splash damage constantly, as a healer you needed to place yourself away to reach both tanks + not get hit by mechanics, and Cure III meant you could easily top off all 3 DPS in 1 go - leaving your cohealer to heal the tanks or whatever.

    I should say, that I am not saying WHM >>>> AST, I am saying WHM has advantages over AST just as AST has advantages over WHM. They are both very relevant.

    In terms of DPS, the reason that they are main healers is why WHM shines. They only get to DPS for short bursts, and that high burst gives them a bigger edge. That said, even if you look at FFLogs of Savage - WHM only beats out AST by about 20% and it's not incredibly significant (220 vs 180 for 75th percentile, for example)
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 04-15-2016 at 12:12 AM.