[Spoilers] The general crackpot and head-canon thread

[Belhi]

Well we don't know if they literally travel through space (I think). It's quite possible they travelled through other means such as through the Void from another world.

More to the point I'm not just talking about their breeding habits. Asexual reproduction is one thing but they can literally turn other creatures into dragon hybrids. The only other creature I can think of in FF14 that can do that is Voidsent. Further we have a Padjal compare draconic essense in spiritual presence to the Elementals, purely spiritual beings.

[Whiteroom]

Well we don't know if they literally travel through space (I think). It's quite possible they travelled through other means such as through the Void from another world.

More to the point I'm not just talking about their breeding habits. Asexual reproduction is one thing but they can literally turn other creatures into dragon hybrids. The only other creature I can think of in FF14 that can do that is Voidsent. Further we have a Padjal compare draconic essense in spiritual presence to the Elementals, purely spiritual beings.

I may be wrong, it's early, but wasn't Tioman Nidhoggs broodmother and partner?


Also, does this mean Dragons are an invasive species to the planet, or were their other dragons before Middy there?

[Belhi]

I may be wrong, it's early, but wasn't Tioman Nidhoggs broodmother and partner?


Also, does this mean Dragons are an invasive species to the planet, or were their other dragons before Middy there?

The implication I got from Middy is that Dragons aren't native but Midgardsormr cut a deal with Hydaelyn for the dragons to live on the planet. Dragons seem very closely linked to Aether so I suspect that the deal was Hydaelyn nurtures Midgardsormr's children and in return Midgardsormr stands guard over the physical location of the Source.

[Rocl]

Do we actually know that they're aliens, though? I feel like so much of what we've heard in their origins is ambiguous in how literal it's meant to be interpreted, especially considering how flowery the English localization likes to be.

I just want to clarify that it isn't only the English localization here. Without exception they all refer to "the beginning of time," "a time before time," and "the beginning of everything" and mention Midgardsormr travelling to the 'this planet' (or star, which is a rather archaic usage of the word that means the same thing)
As for this being evidence of them being extraterrestrials, I am highly suspect.

I may be wrong, it's early, but wasn't Tioman Nidhoggs broodmother and partner?

Zero evidence to support Tioman being Nidhogg's mother. Potential for a "daughterwife" though, imo. Dragons are weird and I'm not going to judge their weird relations.

Also, does this mean Dragons are an invasive species to the planet, or were their other dragons before Middy there?

It seems to me that the dragons, at the very least, share a space with both Voidsent and Elementals in the Raimdelle Codex. Beings so intrinsic and unique to our understanding of life on Hydaelyn it's difficult to place them in the Bloodborn categories. I'm curious to see if scalekin end up actually being related to dragons or not.

Well we don't know if they literally travel through space (I think). It's quite possible they travelled through other means such as through the Void from another world.

You know who could clarify this and answer it with one hundred percent accuracy? Midgardsormr. Do you know who conveniently refuses to manifest himself in front of Hraesvelgr, Nidhogg, and leaves us high and dry after the Singularity Reactor? Midgardsormr. What the hell, man. Midgardsormr needs to come back and give me the infodump I've earned after nearly six years of watching him fall at the Battle of Silvertear Skies!

[Whiteroom]

Zero evidence to support Tioman being Nidhogg's mother. Potential for a "daughterwife" though, imo. Dragons are weird and I'm not going to judge their weird relations.

I meant, the mother of his children, not his mother.

[Rocl]

I meant, the mother of his children, not his mother.

Er that makes substantially more sense. Whoops.