[Spoilers] The general crackpot and head-canon thread

[Quor]

4th Umbra Era would be some semi-alien force threatening the existence of the world\\'s inhabitants, likely with some sort of massive robot.

5th would have been a power mad sorcerer who sought to return the world to nothing. Maybe the ancient civilization of Mhach? Void Ark related?

As for my own stuff....why is no one talking about how Mid apparently can travel through space, and that he did so bearing seven eggs? Tbh, that seems a bit Lavos-like to me, only Mid ended up more of a symbiote with Eorzea instead of the parasite Lavos was.

But that implies that, somewhere out in space, there lies the broodmother of Mid\\\\'s children. Shinryu perhaps? Why did she not come with Mid when he left where ever he came from? Why did he leave? Why did he make a "covenant" with Hydaelyn? Mid seems less like a servant and more like an equal partner to Hydaelyn. That implies a good deal of power, but also an understanding that, in some ways, Hydaelyn is a good thing. Or at least better.

[Fenral]

As for my own stuff....why is no one talking about how Mid apparently can travel through space, and that he did so bearing seven eggs? Tbh, that seems a bit Lavos-like to me, only Mid ended up more of a symbiote with Eorzea instead of the parasite Lavos was.

But that implies that, somewhere out in space, there lies the broodmother of Mid\\\\'s children. Shinryu perhaps?

You're forgetting FF's own sapce-parasite broodmother: Jenova.

[Rocl]

Don't dragons reproduce asexually? No broodmother necessary.

[Fenral]

I mean, he's specifically the father, so even in a seahorse-mating scenario, the eggs would have had to come from a female or he'd technically be a mother. Not that I want to deny him his right to gender self-identification.

[Frederick22]

4th Umbra Era would be some semi-alien force threatening the existence of the world\\'s inhabitants, likely with some sort of massive robot.

5th would have been a power mad sorcerer who sought to return the world to nothing. Maybe the ancient civilization of Mhach? Void Ark related?

As for my own stuff....why is no one talking about how Mid apparently can travel through space, and that he did so bearing seven eggs? Tbh, that seems a bit Lavos-like to me, only Mid ended up more of a symbiote with Eorzea instead of the parasite Lavos was.


But that implies that, somewhere out in space, there lies the broodmother of Mid\\\\'s children. Shinryu perhaps? Why did she not come with Mid when he left where ever he came from? Why did he leave? Why did he make a "covenant" with Hydaelyn? Mid seems less like a servant and more like an equal partner to Hydaelyn. That implies a good deal of power, but also an understanding that, in some ways, Hydaelyn is a good thing. Or at least better.

wait? im confuse what are you talking about the umbral calamities.

4th umbral we know exacly what happened
5th? are you talking about the 5th calimity or the 6th? Let you remember that the 5th was an ice age, and there were no mages beacause magic wasnt re-discovered yet. Was during the 5th umbral time that was discoved on desesperate ways to survive the cold weathers.

[Belhi]

Don't dragons reproduce asexually? No broodmother necessary.

Considering we have multiple cases where we see dragons having mating partners Id say no.

[Rocl]

Considering we have multiple cases where we see dragons having mating partners Id say no.

From a Dengeki interview about Sohm Al lovingly translated by one Anonymous J. Moose:

We know that Tioman is Nidhogg's consort, but what is she other than a dungeon boss? What kind of background information exists for her?

We should start with the fact that dragons don't have a traditional concept of gender. They can reproduce alone, aesexually. And after a dragon is born, over the course of a long life, their form changes radically.

For creatures such as these, a "mate" doesn't mean "a partner for reproduction" like it does for other organisms. It's more of a deep and spiritual bond. Even in the bond between the dragon Hraesvelgr and the human Shiva, the spiritual connection is what is important.

In the same vein, even though Tioman is presented as a "female dragon" that is Nidhogg's "consprt," this means that she is the most important being in his life, spiritually. It's still slightly different from a human concept like "marriage." These terms will probably be explored in the game, as well, as relations between man and dragon improve.

Emphasis mine, obviously "can" may not mean "always" but I'm not sold on the necessity of a breeding pair of dragons

[Belhi]

/snip

I must of entirely missed that interview. The Shiva thing was something I suspected.

Still, this confirms to me that dragons are really, really weird.

[LystAP]

I must of entirely missed that interview. The Shiva thing was something I suspected.

Still, this confirms to me that dragons are really, really weird.

They're not weird, they're just alien. The asexual reproduction would be pretty useful for a naturally spacefaring species that spends long periods of time traveling between the stars.

The fact that they remember the past as vividly as the present would help them keep their sanity while traveling alone through space. They don't even need to depend on eating, since they could hibernate for thousands of years, while their eyes naturally gather energy to sustain themselves; their diversity of forms and chronic mutations would also allow them to adapt to any planetary environment. They're the ideal spacefaring species.

I wouldn't be surprised if dragons had already colonized other worlds in the galaxy of FFXIV; the dragons and the Ascians, if not the Garleans talk of Hydraeyn as 'this star,' which implies knowledge that the stars in the heavens are worlds as well.

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Do we actually know that they're aliens, though? I feel like so much of what we've heard in their origins is ambiguous in how literal it's meant to be interpreted, especially considering how flowery the English localization likes to be.