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    Quote Originally Posted by KrenianKandos View Post
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    Show me your math then for it then if you say i'm wrong. If you actually studied in school maybe you would see my math for that is actually correct. It is 0.02% (2%) however the fact that you can use it when you need to, say when a monster is vulnerable or has debuffs. There are also times when your not doing mechanics either. So many variables is why the 33% over 30 seconds with a 90 second CD can be better because your using it when you need it. Paladin also has utility he can use between those damage bursts. The fact that he can also switch to Sword Oath and then use FoF then switch to shield oath over the other 60 seconds is also a thing. That is a MAJOR boost to damage.

    Also, from what I understand your talking out of your butt. Warrior does so much more damage and a real DPS class does so much more damage then Dark Knight its not even funny.

    Trying to talk down someone with no valid point besides: "YOUR WRONG BECAUSE YOUR WRONG AND PROVE YOURSELF HAHA YOUR WRONG BECAUSE YOUR WRONG" is not valid or fun to me. It actually makes me want to report your post for trolling, because that is all your doing. I actually take time to explain what I mean, and you go and derail my post with your nonsense and hate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    I had a quick question about the numbers and damage in tank stance. I'm getting ShO+FoF =1.105 [(.85x.3)+.85). Also, in a 3 min interval FoF can be put up twice for an total uptime of 40secs (22.22% of the 3 mins). To make my life easier I just treated it as a fourth to get an average in the three mins of .914 [(.85+.85+.85+1.105)/4]. That would put it lower than Darkside - technically even lower than this since I gave FoF+3% uptime. Where am I mathing wrong?

    Using your numbers, which I am assuming are right and that mine are not, it should be noted that .92 of DRKs potential dps is still higher .9435 of PLDs. Meaning overall DRK would have more base damage in tanking stance. Idk if the burst of FoF is better/worse than DA SE/CaS even under tank stance.
    Indeed, the Potential and Potency of attacks are higher. Don't underestimate the opportunity cost of a Paladins attacks though.

    How I got the numbers.

    33%/3=11%.
    100=Base+11=111%
    111x0.15(SHO)=16.65
    111-16.65=94.35

    Remember, when you reduce damage by X%, it happens AFTER all modifiers. That is why Shield Oath burns Grit to the ground. That 5% is actually a lot more then 5%.

    The burst is higher, but a Paladin in Sword Oath+FoF focusing on damage with a fast good weapon over 15 seconds deals way more damage then even that. However the burst Potential of Dark Knight can be scary.

    However.. don't underestimate Paladins either... Yes, Dark Knight can do high damage moves but they will be OOM unless they are using Blood Weapon and out of Tank Sance.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 04-09-2016 at 06:30 AM.