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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Again, you never really ever responded to my reason as to why they don't fit with the Eorzean art direction. These aren't Eorzean weapons, they're weapons from the Lord of the Inferno Ifrit.
    thank you, these are weapons that are taken directly from a glowing beasts body, not crafted by a mindless drone who only likes the way steel and copper looks on weapons.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    thm weapon looks the worst. i want con's. wanna trade?

    edit: what is ppl's problems? you really think these are the most ridiculous weapons out of the ff series? ridiculous meaning big, bulky, glowing, omg weapons? hey at least it's not a mop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Again, you never really ever responded to my reason as to why they don't fit with the Eorzean art direction. These aren't Eorzean weapons, they're weapons from the Lord of the Inferno Ifrit.
    Not Eorzean, the art direction of FFXIV. Every item has to be kept within certain artistic boundaries. Otherwise the direction becomes inconsistent and detached. No game wants that to happen, and no, it is not common for companies to change their art direction in the same game. Between different games, sure. All you will have is a bunch of artistic nonsense where nothing fits anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Not Eorzean, the art direction of FFXIV. Every item has to be kept within certain artistic boundaries. Otherwise the direction becomes inconsistent and detached. No game wants that to happen, and no, it is not common for companies to change their art direction in the same game. Between different games, sure. All you will have is a bunch of artistic nonsense where nothing fits anywhere.
    You do realize that all of the current crafted gear comes from only within the confines of Eorzea right? Eorzea is only one continent with 6 major cities on it, 3 of which we don't have access to (Sharlayan, Ishgard and Ala Mhigo). All of the current artistic direction comes from one of those cities on the same continent. It is decidedly Eorzean. The only reason it is the only artistic direction we're familiar with is because it's the only one we've been exposed to aside from the Garleans who we have had limited interaction with. So people are mistaking the art direction of the game with the Eorzean style of equipment because honestly it's all we've really seen and used.

    Even the Garlean art direction is drastically different from that of Eorzea and hardly realistic. As I stated before their armor has a much more noble and military look to it and is often comprised mainly of the colors black, red or silver. They have gun-hybrid weapons, something we would not expect from an Eorzean weapon.

    There are also other continents out there which we haven't even come across yet. I'm willing to bet that their artistic direction is drastically different from Eorzea's.
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    I think they're just fine, and the glow effect is not overdone.

    The bow may be a little big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Honestly. We have every right to complain. We want the game to do well and we'll do our best to try and guide the developers down a path we think will be best for the game.
    But it doesn't mean we can't be mature about it.
    it is this sense of entitlement that bothers me. developers are doing a job. they don't owe us anything nor do we owe them anything. i understand that you don't like how they look and im o.k with that. i can agree to disagree. but ur basically trying to tell picasso to use a crayon rather than a paintbrush because u feel like it would look better.

    me, also being a developer, i see my work as art. im not bothered if people don't like the concept or how it looks, thats part of criticism, but for people to try and tell me what is best for me and my company is offensive.

    im fine with your opinion of how they look. just dont go up in arms trying to force them to change it after they put a lot of time and effort into designing and developing the weapons. not unless ur the lead developer of course, then u can do what u want
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    it is this sense of entitlement that bothers me. developers are doing a job. they don't owe us anything nor do we owe them anything.
    this is correct. these are professionals after all.
    who is to say there is no strategic marketing planning involved in the way these weapons were designed? who are we to tell SE they have their own art direction incorrect?
    players have their own vision for the game, but so do the people creating it.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GabbaGabba View Post
    it is this sense of entitlement that bothers me. developers are doing a job. they don't owe us anything nor do we owe them anything. i understand that you don't like how they look and im o.k with that. i can agree to disagree. but ur basically trying to tell picasso to use a crayon rather than a paintbrush because u feel like it would look better.

    me, also being a developer, i see my work as art. im not bothered if people don't like the concept or how it looks, thats part of criticism, but for people to try and tell me what is best for me and my company is offensive.

    im fine with your opinion of how they look. just dont go up in arms trying to force them to change it after they put a lot of time and effort into designing and developing the weapons. not unless ur the lead developer of course, then u can do what u want
    Calling BS on you being a developer. As a developer you OWE your customers a good product. That is how you'd still be a developer. Also by your logic, we shouldn't have whined that FFXIV was complete crap 1 year ago because, as you yourself just said, we shouldn't have gone "up in arms trying forcing them to change it". No, the dev team is held to a standard set by the people who are going to buy/buying their product. If they do not meet those standards they will probably find themselves getting fired by the parent company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GabbaGabba View Post
    after they put a lot of time and effort into designing and developing the weapons.
    I highly doubt that these weapons took long or much effort to make, I still think it just looks like they lopped off ifrits horns from his .dat and merged them with existing meshes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    Calling BS on you being a developer. As a developer you OWE your customers a good product. That is how you'd still be a developer. Also by your logic, we shouldn't have whined that FFXIV was complete crap 1 year ago because, as you yourself just said, we shouldn't have gone "up in arms trying forcing them to change it". No, the dev team is held to a standard set by the people who are going to buy/buying their product. If they do not meet those standards they will probably find themselves getting fired by the parent company.
    i think he just meant that some people come off as if their opinion and theirs alone should have a direct noticeable impact on the development of the game.

    ive seen just as many people say they generally like the ifrit weapons and cant wait for more as ive seen complaints. the developers themselves plus about half of the forums like the weapons, so who are they not satisfying at this point?
    they cant satisfy everyone, but i know looots of people who dont play who might after seeing this part of the update.
    they might actually think they game looks cool rather than pretty or how possibly real you can get.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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